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Coronavirus - UK250,000 deaths if course not changed - watch the BBC

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:24pm
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The Imperial College has reached some shocking conclusions, predicting 250,000 Covid-19 deaths in the UK alone and more than a million in the USA if there are not further government restrictions on social contact. That changed minds.

In major speeches to night Johnson in the UK, Macron in France and Trump US have all moved in their own ways towards Spanish lock down.

Macron said tonight said five times 'Nous sommes en guerre 'We are at war' and is putting 100,000 gendarmes and soliders onto streets to enforce stay at home rules.. Trump said he did not expect the pandemic to ease before July or August and Johnson predicted further tightening of conditions before the weekend.

You can read the full document which has caused this alarm here. 

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:02am

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:02am

It's not a war, calm down man!!
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:30am

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:30am

zacdog wrote on Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:02am:

It's not a war, calm down man!!

Zacdog,

Have you read the Imperial College Paper?  The measures brought in so far, have never been used in the last 120 years, except during two world wars. Listen to the UK and US experts, if deaths run into the millions, mate its an extremely dangerous situation.

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:42am

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:42am

Roberto30710 wrote on Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:30am:

Zacdog,

Have you read the Imperial College Paper?  The measures brought in so far, have never been used in the last 120 years, except during two world wars. Listen to the UK and US experts, if deaths run into the millions, mate its an extremely dangerous situation.

It's not a world war, stop scaremongering!

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:32pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:32pm

zacdog wrote on Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:42am:

It's not a world war, stop scaremongering!

Don't always agree with you zacdog but in this case..... 

No one is at war and even if the figures are correct this is sţill scaremongering and we don't need.it!

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:56pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:56pm

Keep calm - no need for all this scaremongering. As Cpl Jones said on many occasion Don't Panic Mr Mainwaring - at the end of the day it's not a war where there is missiles, bullets and nukes flying overhead - it's a war on a virus - if we all self isolate as much as possible the virus will die out. Let's put this in perspective - if you suffer with a bad chest, or other health issues (self isolate for 14 days) do food shopping online or ask a neighbour - get it dropped of at your door - do not open the door and let the kind neighbour or delivery driver in for a chat and a cuppa!!!!

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:29pm

Just the sort of silly scaremongering that causes mass panic.

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:09pm

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Roberto30710 wrote on Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:24pm:

The Imperial College has reached some shocking conclusions, predicting 250,000 Covid-19 deaths in the UK alone and more than a million in the USA if there are not further government restrictions on social contact. That changed minds.

In major speeches to night Johnson in the UK, Macron in France and Trump US have all moved in their own ways towards Spanish lock down.
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Macron said tonight said five times 'Nous sommes en guerre 'We are at war' and is putting 100,000 gendarmes and soliders onto streets to enforce stay at home rules.. Trump said he did not expect the pandemic to ease before July or August and Johnson predicted further tightening of conditions before the weekend.

You can read the full document which has caused this alarm here. 

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

Hand on heart, which of you read the whole 20 page document, before commenting? 

The Imperial College is the principal advisor to the British Government on Coronavirus. The British Government did not think they were scaremongering, they realised that they had to change course.

if you believe for a moment that after 15 days of self isolation this is all going to go away, you are destined to be sadly disappointed. The UK response will be toughened during this week.

Please read and perhaps watch todays Press conference or read this  https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-uk-only-realised-last-21705035 . 

The UK government are now hoping that they can keep deaths down to 20,000

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:31pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:31pm

Roberto30710 wrote on Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:09pm:

Hand on heart, which of you read the whole 20 page document, before commenting? 

The Imperial College is the principal advisor to the British Government on Coronavirus. The British Government did not think they were scaremongering, they realised that they had to change course.

if you believe for a moment that after 15 days of self isolation this is all going to go away, you are destined to be sadly disappointed. The UK response will be toughened during this week.

Please read and perhaps watch todays Press conference or read this  https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-uk-only-realised-last-21705035 . 

The UK government are now hoping that they can keep deaths down to 20,000

Still not war my friend, nor is it biological warfare, it's called s viral pandemic.  Nobody needs to read a 20 page report, these are all over  the internet, take your pick. The most accurate way to obtain the Info at the required level is via news headlines, just sift through the media dramatics and take on board the basics to get through safely.  A strong community spirit like what Camposol appears to have is what's required,  'within the bounds of official guidelines'.  This hub will prove priceless!  Not all reports are usefull to everyone, the ones governing where you live are though. You mention your experience within 'biological reporting', so what?  I'm an Army trained Instructor in Nuclear Biological and Chemical warfare,  It makes me no different from Joe Bloggs down the street today in this situation! 

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:22pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:22pm

zacdog wrote on Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:31pm:

Still not war my friend, nor is it biological warfare, it's called s viral pandemic.  Nobody needs to read a 20 page report, these are all over  the internet, take your pick. The most accurate way to obtain the Info at the required level is via news headlines, just sift through the medi...

...a dramatics and take on board the basics to get through safely.  A strong community spirit like what Camposol appears to have is what's required,  'within the bounds of official guidelines'.  This hub will prove priceless!  Not all reports are usefull to everyone, the ones governing where you live are though. You mention your experience within 'biological reporting', so what?  I'm an Army trained Instructor in Nuclear Biological and Chemical warfare,  It makes me no different from Joe Bloggs down the street today in this situation! 

The Imperial College is not 'any' report, its not a newspaper story or a missive from you or me, its the body that advises the UK Government. 

The paper you apparently have not read is the reason why the British government has changed tack. They had decided they would just let the infection run, but the Imperial College showed this would overwhelm the NHS with horrific number of deaths (250,000) so they switched back towars the French and Spanish measures.

The reason I posted it originally it was to flag the seriousness of the situation.

If your definition requires the deployment of guns, bombs and nuclear weapons, it is not a war. 

Forget the semantics, recognise this is a dangerous situation, that everyone needs to understand.

As I write this, the British PM has in the first two minutes of his press conference, said to defeat the novel coronavirus Cov-19. It is going to require a wartime level sacrifice from everyone.

'We have never in peacetime faced a challenge like this' says the British Chancellor. 

Might be really worthwhile reading the Imperial college paper on the viral pandemic?

That might help you understand why and how governments are acting as they to win the battle against this invisible enemy. 

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