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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:56am
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Chrisnpat5758

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Hi everyone I am asking this question because my wife and I I would like to retire early we would be mortgage free in Spain camposol and before we get our UK pensions we will have an income of roundabout €280 per week is this enough F2 live a reasonable life before we collect our government pensions thank you in advance and hope we get the answer we would like all the best Chris and Pat

crissywissy

Posted: Tue Oct 1, 2019 9:20am

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Posted: Tue Oct 1, 2019 9:20am

you need to factor in the cost of private health insurance which can be expensive depending on any existing conditions....you need an income of a set level to apply for residencia...up to date figures are on the CAB Spain website

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Posted: Tue Oct 1, 2019 8:52pm

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Posted: Tue Oct 1, 2019 8:52pm

As the previous reply said you need to factor in private health care until you reach UK pension age...you will also pay tax on the €280 you mentioned to the Spanish government... personally I would say you need approximately   €300 per week for 2 people to live on.. when you start factoring in electricity/ gas / IBI / water / running a car / food / social life... good luck .

zacdog

Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:03pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:03pm

Hi FF.  Am 4 missing something on my moving planning and preparation?  I'm a UK national living in South Ireland, about to move to Camposol and paying UK tax on both my UK private pensions.  Are we saying that as with Chris n Pat, I will be also be paying Tax the the Spanish tax office?  Excuse my ignorance on the subject. 

crissywissy

Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:21pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:21pm

You pay tax only in your country of residence so when you move to Spain thats where you pay....Spanish tax is higher with much less personal allowance...see a tax advisor when you move and inform your Irish tax office that you’ve moved to Spain.

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Chrisnpat5758

Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:47pm

Chrisnpat5758

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Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:47pm

Hi thank you for your reply if I leave all my money in my UK account and only transfer what I need to my Spanish account would that main that I am only paying tax in the UK

crissywissy

Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:56pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 12:56pm

doesnt matter where your money is you must declare your world wide assets and income...the various tax authorities do communicate so best to be up front!! there is info on the CAB Spain website. Any crossover of tax you can reclaim from HMRC and its adjusted the following year...keep every piece of paper relating to tax, income, pensions and bank accounts.

zacdog

Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 1:01pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 1:01pm

My thoughts exactly and it's what I've been doing for last 5 years here in Ireland without recourse,  I  just transfer what I need from my UK bank acc to my Irish bank acc (EU agreements?).  Now doubt has entered into the equation I'm in the process of double checking procedures for moving to Spain.  I hope you're wrong FF.

PhilTox

Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 1:10pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 1:10pm

Rather than getting everyone's perceived "knowledge"  talk to a tax specialist in the area you plan to live. Local expats info may be correct or close but best to get it from a specialist. We are due to become Spanish tax resident in a couple of months and with only savings and a tiny works pension to keep us going until pensionable age (only 3 years 😧) we are still talking to our solicitors in the port to ensure we are correct and legal. 

crissywissy

Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 1:10pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 2, 2019 1:10pm

if I am my asesoria has been wrong for years!!

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