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Moving to spain

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2021 11:27pm
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Sunshine in spain

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My partner has sold his house and we wanted to retire early. Our dream is to live in the sun,with all the new rules is it realistic ? . 

eduardo3332

Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 12:17pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 12:17pm

This a question only you can really answer, the main thing is can you meet the requirements and can you afford to live on your incomes?

The rules are the same for any person coming from and country not in the EU and have only changed to UK residents, as they are no longer members of the European Comunity.

I have had property in Spain for well over 20 years and enjoy the life stile but obviously I became a Spanish resident, although this dose not mean I lose my British passport and Nationality.

Spain is a good country to live in if you stick to the rules

zacdog

Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 3:03pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 3:03pm

Fingers crossed 🤞for you in your answer to this question;  are you parents or grandparents Irish?

We are in your position and everything was looking gloomy post BREXIT, now we are moving on the back of our golden ticket in the form of said passport.  If not, and you can't stump up 30 odd grand annual income then it's no.... sorry.

eraser

Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 3:10pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 3:10pm

Moving to Spain: “Stolen from an other forum”

There are even bigger issues than that about Brits moving to Spain now...

The opportunity for UK citizens not already living in Spain to apply for Spanish Residencia via the EU citizens route finally ended on 31.12.20.

From 1.1.21 onwards if it is your intention to come to live in Spain (rather than simply visit the Schengen zone for the "up to 90 days in any running 180 day period" time limit that applies to all non-EU citizens) you must now BEFORE YOU COME first apply from within the UK to the Spanish Consulate in London (or Edinburgh), for the required pre-entry visa.

That's either a "Non-Lucrative Visa" under which you can temporarily reside in Spain for up to 12 months whilst you make your Residencia application, but which forbids any working for income (non refundable application fee currently £516 per person); or if you have a formal Spanish job offer in writing then a "Work Visa" (non refundable application fee £410).

One of the conditions of being granted a Non-Lucrative Visa is that you can show the Consulate proof of the minimum regular monthly income per applicant required by the Spanish Consulate (which they require you to have in order that you can support yourselves whilst in Spain and so not become a burden on Spanish taxpayers) .

There are several other requirements, including a criminal records check report, and proof of full-cover private Spanish medical insurance for the period of the visa, etc. Any supporting documents not in Spanish will need to be Apostiled and translated into Spanish by an official Translator

I would very VERY strongly advise you to make your pre-entry Visa application through a specialist lawyer, as if any part of your application does not meet the requirements your entire application will be rejected and your application fee lost.

You must have obtained that approved pre-entry visa BEFORE you then come to Spain, as it is that visa which gives you permission to reside temporarily in Spain whilst you then obtain and submit all your formal Residencia process documents etc.

Be aware that then once in Spain, as part of your Non-EU citizen Spanish Residencia application, as well as showing the approved Pre-entry Visa which allowed you to enter the country to live temporarily, you will need to show Spanish bank statements etc proof that you have brought into Spain a minimum of at least 4 x "IPREM" to support yourself, or documented proof you are earning more than that in Spain.

If you are bringing any other family members with you, then you must add at least 1 x IPREM for each of them.

This "IPREM" amount increased on 1.1.21. by 5% for year 2021 and is now 6772 euros.

So you will need to bring into Spain a MINIMUM approx 27,500 euros with you, plus 6,772 euros for each of any other family members, to qualify as financially self-supporting to obtain Spanish Residencia.

As part of your Residencia application you must also show proof that you've taken out at least an annual full, all-conditions-covered Spanish private health insurance policy (including cover for any pre existing conditions), for each person you are bringing in. Such a Spanish medical insurance policy is not cheap... perhaps at least 2,000 euros per person, and potentially much, much more in case of significant medical existing conditions.

There is also plenty of other bureaucracy on top of these big initial issues, including the requirement to take a Spanish driving test (in Spanish) as your (non-EU) UK driving licence ceases to be valid for use in Spain after you've lived there for 6 months.

More info here...

http://extranjeros.inclusion.gob.es/.../hoja010/index.html

And here....

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/.../Consulado/Pages/Visas.aspx

an other hurdle:

https://murciatoday.com/brexit-collides-with-1975-military-law-in-spain-british-housebuyers-must-now-obtain-military-permit_1552969-a.html


PeterC

Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 3:26pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 3:26pm

plus points: generally better weather, cheaper alcohol, cheaper council tax.

minus points, especially since Brexit - where do I begin?!

Sunshine in spain

Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 5:48pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 5:48pm

zacdog wrote on Sat Apr 3, 2021 3:03pm:

Fingers crossed 🤞for you in your answer to this question;  are you parents or grandparents Irish?

We are in your position and everything was looking gloomy post BREXIT, now we are moving on the back of our golden ticket in the form of said passport.  If not, and you can't stump up 30 odd grand annual income then it's no.... sorry....

...

Yes my father and grandparents were Irish does that make a difference

Stevie100

Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 6:04pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 6:04pm

Sunshine in spain wrote on Sat Apr 3, 2021 5:48pm:

Yes my father and grandparents were Irish does that make a difference

Yes. you can get an Irish passport. Not many people know this, but on the day you are born if either of your parents are Irish, you are classed as an Irish citizen, thus can get a passport. I got one last year as my Mother was Irish. If it is your Grandparent/s only that are Irish then you have to apply to be an Irish citizen. My Daughter is applying for hers now. 

zacdog

Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 6:37pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 6:37pm

Sunshine in spain wrote on Sat Apr 3, 2021 5:48pm:

Yes my father and grandparents were Irish does that make a difference

There you go, got your golden ticket 🥂☘🤞.

Apply for your Irish passport using your father's direct Irish link.  When you are planning  to travel, you husband's UK passport can be issued a visa as spouse of an Irish citizen which will give him all the same entry criteria as yourself so as to allow unhindered entry and residency should you wish to make it permanent.  😁

Let me know if you require any further guidance. 

NickWyatt

Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 6:40pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 6:40pm

Stevie100 wrote on Sat Apr 3, 2021 6:04pm:

Yes. you can get an Irish passport. Not many people know this, but on the day you are born if either of your parents are Irish, you are classed as an Irish citizen, thus can get a passport. I got one last year as my Mother was Irish. If it is your Grandparent/s only that are Irish then you have t...

...o apply to be an Irish citizen. My Daughter is applying for hers now. 

At the moment there is a 2 year waiting list for Irish citizenship at a cost of 2000 euro

Stevie100

Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 7:06pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 3, 2021 7:06pm

NickWyatt wrote on Sat Apr 3, 2021 6:40pm:

At the moment there is a 2 year waiting list for Irish citizenship at a cost of 2000 euro

There is not a 2 year waiting list for Irish citizenship and it doesn't cost 2000 euros. The cost for citizenship by descent is 278 euros and the waiting list is 12 to 18 months.  The cost of a passport would be on top and that is 75 euros

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