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They don't even like us let alone love us.
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The only thing the Eu is interested in,let's not fool ourselves is Money the immigrants that come here from the Eu are not interested in the uk either,they are only interested in Money as well.We seem to worry about what other countries think about us,I say I couldn't care less what countries think about us lets just get on with looking after ourselves.The Eu is a wasteful,corrupt institution plus spiteful to add .get rid of this cancer as soon as possible .
Totally agree.
I will celebrate when the inevitable collapse comes about.
Posted: Tue Oct 2, 2018 8:50pm
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Poland, Italy, Greece, are all watching the outcome of Brexit before having a similar referendum due to the high fees and worse without the U.K. the proposed high fees to remain in the e,u
Casacymruenespana wrote on Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:57pm:
I also voted Leave, however I can understand and am not surprised at the position of the EU, they made it clear that their 4 pillars and the values of the EU would remain unchanged in advance of the Referendum (Cameron got nothing out of them) and once the result was known.
What is more disappointing is the failure of the Remainers to accept the Democratic Result including Senior Cabinet Members, Civil Servants, the Chairman of the B of E et al, who have all failed to face reality and get behind the decision...LEAVE MEANS LEAVE....
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We had 6 months of information & misinformation on both sides and ultimately 72% of those who were allowed to vote did so and the decision was to leave (Those who lived outside the UK for more than 15 years SHOULD have had a vote)...there was NO Hard Brexit or Soft Brexit...it was leave and trade is only one aspect of this decision.
We intend to move to Spain so you could say we are being hypocritical, however I was prepared to put the UK 1st and if it impacted our personal futures...so be it.... but frankly the UK won`t be the last country to have a Referendum in the next few years.
Think about these 2 points :
Many European countries, including the UK have suffered 10 years of austerity, the EU has continually increased its Budget, ignoring the pain we have had to face while they continually spend....How can that be right ?, that is not Leadership.
The UK has democratically voted to leave, yet the EU are suggesting we hold a 2nd Referendum....How can this be right ? It says everything about their respect for democracy in individual countries..!
The UK has been a cash cow for a long time as investment has been made in the Eastern bloc and even Turkey at the cost of manufacturing jobs in the UK.
Finally, the Politicians in the UK can no longer hide behind the EU, they now have to demonstrate real leadership and vision to take the country forward, sadly THEY ARE NOT UP TO IT...! This if anything is my biggest concern...
Of the entire voting population
30% voted to stay
32% voted to leave
38% couldn't be bothered to vote.
In 1974 there were 2 general elections in one year
So lets have another referendum and sort this disastrous shambles while still have some manufacturing capacity left and while the £is still worth something.
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Of the entire voting population (46,500,001) turnout was 72.2%
34.7% voted to stay (16,141,241)
37.4% voted to leave (17,410,742)
27.8% did not vote
These figures from The Electoral Commission website. There were 25,359 rejected ballots.
Parliament would have to vote for a 2nd referendum. Who would instigate it? Whoever did would be ignoring the will of the people. It would be political suicide, would you vote for a party who had ignored your wishes because it's too difficult to deal with?
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:44pm
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ianc2 wrote on Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:36pm:
Of the entire voting population
30% voted to stay
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32% voted to leave
38% couldn't be bothered to vote.
In 1974 there were 2 general elections in one year
So lets have another referendum and sort this disastrous shambles while still have some manufacturing capacity left and while the £is still worth something.
So if we did have another referendum... and the out come was to Leave ...this would still not be acceptable to the EU so what next..what you are forgetting is that we had a Democratic vote Democracy spoke and the outcome was to leave ...the dictatorship that is running the EU are refusing to accept this....they want the UK to keep on voting ..( just like the southern Irish did ) ..the EU made joke out of Irish democracy ...and they are trying to do the same with the UK.
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:45pm
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The people calling for a second referendum will want a third and fourth and keep asking untill the people vote the way they want you to should do it after every election ? But best thing is the arrogance of the Germans and the French will only make more people want to leave
My position is now leave with no deal we never had one years ago let's deal with Canada Australia New Zealand south africa strange when you think the French and Germans sell us so much more than they buy from UK so let's stop buying their produce see who's the loser
I think the EU should have "Hotel California" as their theme tune.
You can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave!
Kalli wrote on Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:20pm:
Of the entire voting population (46,500,001) turnout was 72.2%
34.7% voted to stay (16,141,241)
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37.4% voted to leave (17,410,742)
27.8% did not vote
These figures from The Electoral Commission website. There were 25,359 rejected ballots.
Parliament would have to vote for a 2nd referendum. Who would instigate it? Whoever did would be ignoring the will of the people. It would be political suicide, would you vote for a party who had ignored your wishes because it's too difficult to deal with?
I Stand corrected , your figures are correct and do show a clear majority. However the whole atmosphere has become so toxic that resolving the whole mess seems to be beyond our MP's who are incapable of resolving anything.
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