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Roland

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:32pm

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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:32pm

So what is anybody going to do if you are over the 90 day period ??

Refuse you entry ??

Smack your legs ??

paulsav

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:50pm

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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:50pm

They can not only refuse you re-entry next visit but fine you too. Its not worth doing it. They,ve already done it to non Eu visitors in the past, its nothing new, just new to UK citizens.

Anyway after 90 days, one should be applying for residencia.

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PeterC

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:27pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:27pm

Some confusion on here about the 90 day rule and residency: as an EU citizen current rule is that if you intend to stay for more than 90 days in a calendar year you must register on the foreigners register. If you are non-EU then you are limited to 90 days in a calendar year: if you are in Spain for more than 183 days a year you can be regarded as tax resident in Spain and must declare all world-wide income for Spanish tax. If Brexit happens and there are no special laws passed to change these, it will be much easier for the tax authorities to know how long folk are in the country, and pursue them for tax.

It will also be easy for them to know how long a Brit reg car is in the country, and hopefully impound some of the untested untaxed motors.

rma44

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:33pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:33pm

Untaxed; untested and uninsured! So many in the UK too, I totally agree crush them!

PeterC

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:02pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:02pm

At least the UK is making an effort....

“A new campaign by the DVLA has been launched to clampdown on road tax evasion which could see thousands of motorists facing unexpected fines.

New figures released today suggest around 10,000 untaxed vehicles in the UK are clamped or impounded every month. 

In 2016 almost 106,000 untaxed cars were immobilised or impounded for not paying  in Britain. 

This has almost doubled from 2014, with 57,254 being clamped in that year. ”

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rma44

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:48pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:48pm

Unfortunately there are hundreds that never get caught because of low Police numbers. A lot of Eastern Europeans don't take any notice if they do get caught unless the vehicle is crushed! The ANPR cameras are all over the country and ping every few minutes to no avail. All law abiding motorists have to pay extra to cover these in a similar way shoplifting costs are borne by the customer who pays. This is a result of the incompetant  Mrs May, you might have heard of her, who decimated the Police when she was Home Secretary!

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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:10am

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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:10am

PeterC wrote on Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:27pm:

Some confusion on here about the 90 day rule and residency: as an EU citizen current rule is that if you intend to stay for more than 90 days in a calendar year you must register on the foreigners register. If you are non-EU then you are limited to 90 days in a calendar year: if you are in Spain ...

...for more than 183 days a year you can be regarded as tax resident in Spain and must declare all world-wide income for Spanish tax. If Brexit happens and there are no special laws passed to change these, it will be much easier for the tax authorities to know how long folk are in the country, and pursue them for tax.

It will also be easy for them to know how long a Brit reg car is in the country, and hopefully impound some of the untested untaxed motors.

Peter, sorry to disagree, but non Eu visitors can spend 90days in 180day period, ie 2 lots of 90days per year not 90days in a year as you have said. Sure it was just a mistake

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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:14am

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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:14am

Hi Peter

Very interested in what you wrote regarding...."as an EU citizen current rule is that if you intend to stay for more than 90 days in a calendar year you must register on the foreigners register".....

How do you apply to get on this register. Can a local solicitor do this for me as that would mean, assuming I have understood correctly, that would allow me to stay as long as I/we want until such time as Brexit is resolved and then I guess the rules would need to be reviewed

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PeterC

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:04am

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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:04am

Talk to a gestor, as they have ways of cutting through the queues. Bear in mind the tax residency when you say “as long as we like”.

BillS

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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:36am

Currently any 183 days (or part of any day) in any year, beginning Jan 1st ending Dec 31st, else liable for Spanish income tax. 

Non-EU citizens are allowed a maximum 90 days in ANY 180 day period, as will U.K. citizens after Brexit if it ever happens. So the maximum time in EU would then be 90 days in, 90 days out, 90 days in, 90 days out, in the year. As the latter rules would be enforced by EU, that might be more rigid than times currently enforced by Spain. The 90 days would also require an ETIAS Visa, cost €7, and be required before flight or ferry into the EU. It will operate much the same as the current US ESTA. https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/etias/ 

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