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Business Meeting in Spain.

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:38am
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Elisabeth48

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A Business Associate wishes to come from the UK to Alicante for essential Urgent meetings for 24 hours but is concerned about quarantine requirements on return to the UK. Would he be allowed to come on Business with a letter confirming his Business meeting? And would there be Quarantine requirements if only visiting for 24hours?

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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:43am

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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:43am

Elisabeth48 wrote on Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:38am:

A Business Associate wishes to come from the UK to Alicante for essential Urgent meetings for 24 hours but is concerned about quarantine requirements on return to the UK. Would he be allowed to come on Business with a letter confirming his Business meeting? And would there be Quarantine requireme...

...nts if only visiting for 24hours?

I don't know about the first question, but the answer to the 2nd is that they would have to quarantine. It doesn't really matter whether it's 24 hours or 24 minutes.

Will60

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:15pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:15pm

Stevie100 wrote on Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:43am:

I don't know about the first question, but the answer to the 2nd is that they would have to quarantine. It doesn't really matter whether it's 24 hours or 24 minutes.

Not just Covid ... is a visa needed to attend the business meeting ?

https://www.gov.uk/visit-europe-1-january-2021/business-travel-extra-requirements

Worth checking if he needs a visa, work permit or other documentation .... if he'll be doing any of the following:

  • transferring from the UK branch of a company to a branch in a different country (‘intra-corporate transfer’), even for a short period of time
  • carrying out contracts to provide a service to a client in another country in which your employer has no presence
  • providing services in another country as a self-employed person

RichT

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:36pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:36pm

Under the UK rules, to travel internationally from the UK, travellers have to inform their carrier of their reason for travel and that this is 'legally permitted' - and, whilst it's hard to find a list of these reasons, 'work' appears to be one.

However, under the Spanish restrictions, my understanding is that no-one from the UK, other than people with permanent residency in Spain, can enter Spain right now (to be reviewed on 2nd March). There are areas on both the UK and Spanish government websites that imply this relates to air & sea travel only (implying that this does not apply to overland travel), but I assume your associate would be flying anyway.

As many businesses and other institutions such as the government and courts are conducting meetings, etc by Zoom & MS Teams, I guess there would also be a question as to what meeting is so urgent that it has to be in person, when restrictions are clearly in place to minimise the spread of the virus, for the good of us all.

And, yes, he would need PCR, etc. tests to get here and then to quarantine on return to UK (and, indeed, if returning to Scotland after 15th Feb, would need to stay in a quarantine hotel for 10 days and pay £1,750 to do so!).

Elisabeth48

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:52pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:52pm

RichT wrote on Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:36pm:

Under the UK rules, to travel internationally from the UK, travellers have to inform their carrier of their reason for travel and that this is 'legally permitted' - and, whilst it's hard to find a list of these reasons, 'work' appears to be one.

However, under the Spanish restrictions, my understanding is that no-one from the UK, other than people with permanent residency in Spain, can enter Spain right now (to be reviewed on 2nd March). There are areas on both the UK and Spanish government websites that imply this relates to air & s...

...ea travel only (implying that this does not apply to overland travel), but I assume your associate would be flying anyway.

As many businesses and other institutions such as the government and courts are conducting meetings, etc by Zoom & MS Teams, I guess there would also be a question as to what meeting is so urgent that it has to be in person, when restrictions are clearly in place to minimise the spread of the virus, for the good of us all.

And, yes, he would need PCR, etc. tests to get here and then to quarantine on return to UK (and, indeed, if returning to Scotland after 15th Feb, would need to stay in a quarantine hotel for 10 days and pay £1,750 to do so!).

Thank you very much to everyone who has replied to my questions, answers are now sufficient. I appreciate very much all comments. 

Bill17520

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:09am

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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:09am

Elisabeth48 wrote on Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:52pm:

Thank you very much to everyone who has replied to my questions, answers are now sufficient. I appreciate very much all comments. 

Why can it not be done on line? 

PeterC

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:26am

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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:26am

Bill17520 wrote on Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:09am:

Why can it not be done on line? 

As shaking hands is definitely not permitted, what is the point of being face-to-face?

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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:11pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:11pm

Elisabeth48 wrote on Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:38am:

A Business Associate wishes to come from the UK to Alicante for essential Urgent meetings for 24 hours but is concerned about quarantine requirements on return to the UK. Would he be allowed to come on Business with a letter confirming his Business meeting? And would there be Quarantine requireme...

...nts if only visiting for 24hours?

I'm sorry, but no meeting is that important! These can be carried out very successfully online as pointed out by another member earlier. On another post someone wants to get to the UK for work. Again why? Thousands in the UK cannot work because of the lock down, nothing is more important than getting rid of this virus.

All passenger international travel should be banned until the whole world feels the benefit of the vaccine. Maybe then we can all get back to some sort of normality, we all need that, but so long as we have selfish people trying to circumvent things, the rest of us will have to suffer. Had this been enforced in the UK right from the start, we'd be in a different position today

You can take any test you like, it's only a snapshot at the time and not 100% effective. No one knows if they are carriers of the virus, so just think of the damage you might cause by travelling! The simple message for all of us is to stay where you are.

Cat47

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:00pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:00pm

rma44 wrote on Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:11pm:

I'm sorry, but no meeting is that important! These can be carried out very successfully online as pointed out by another member earlier. On another post someone wants to get to the UK for work. Again why? Thousands in the UK cannot work because of the lock down, nothing is more important than get...

...ting rid of this virus.

All passenger international travel should be banned until the whole world feels the benefit of the vaccine. Maybe then we can all get back to some sort of normality, we all need that, but so long as we have selfish people trying to circumvent things, the rest of us will have to suffer. Had this been enforced in the UK right from the start, we'd be in a different position today

You can take any test you like, it's only a snapshot at the time and not 100% effective. No one knows if they are carriers of the virus, so just think of the damage you might cause by travelling! The simple message for all of us is to stay where you are.

TOTALLY AGREE. TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE UNABLE TO WORK BECAUSE OF SELFISH PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO THINK THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM ABIDING BY THE RULES LIKE THE REST OF US. 

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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:21am

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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:21am

Cat47 wrote on Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:00pm:

TOTALLY AGREE. TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE UNABLE TO WORK BECAUSE OF SELFISH PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO THINK THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM ABIDING BY THE RULES LIKE THE REST OF US. 

Please stop shouting

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