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Posted: Mon Jul 4, 2022 10:00pm
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TonyH

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I am looking to buy a holiday home to use more and more into my retirement. One area that looks like it has what we want is Puerto de Mazarron. However, I have seen a few reviews suggesting that Brits are not particularly welcome by the Spanish in the area. Any views on this would be very welcome. 

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Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 11:13am

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Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 11:13am

TonyH wrote on Mon Jul 4, 2022 10:00pm:

I am looking to buy a holiday home to use more and more into my retirement. One area that looks like it has what we want is Puerto de Mazarron. However, I have seen a few reviews suggesting that Brits are not particularly welcome by the Spanish in the area. Any views on this would be very welcome...

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Do not believe everything you read, Spanish people are very welcoming and will always try to assist you.

Just Remember you are in their country be polite and they will return your good manors.

I have lived in various towns and villages (including the port) for 24 years and have never had any problems only with brits sometimes'

Best to try and see what you think.

TonyH

Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 6:35pm

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Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 6:35pm

Thank you. We have always found exactly the same but were a little concerned by some reviews stating that the Spanish are a little more protective of this area. We can’t wait to visit and see for ourselves. 

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Posted: Wed Jul 6, 2022 11:33am

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Posted: Wed Jul 6, 2022 11:33am

eduardo3332 wrote on Tue Jul 5, 2022 11:13am:

Do not believe everything you read, Spanish people are very welcoming and will always try to assist you.

Just Remember you are in their country be polite and they will return your good manors.

I have lived in various towns and villages (including the port) for 24 years and have never had any problems only with brits sometimes'

Best to try and see what you think.

Hi there,

I've been visiting the port for more than  5 years and have a place there. And I can honestly say that I have never had any problem whatsoever with the Spanish and count many of them as my friends,

I think what can be a problem in El Puerto is that some Brits can be very distant from the Spanish and not learn the language. And that can lead to misunderstandings. Also, with the overwhelmingly British enclave of Camposol, sometimes the Spanish think that it's off that Brits don't like to mix.

Several things to say about the Port. One thing I do like about the place is that it is a fully functioning town in its own right. Tourism is important, especially with the Spanish in the summer. It has had a hard time for the duration of the pandemic and is still finding its feet again in my opinion. Even in summer last year, in August when it should be at its busiest, it wasn't quite as buzzing as usual. Of course, this also means that it operates all year round and doesn't ever entirely shut down a some resorts do. Although winter can be a bit quiet at times. 

It's also worth remembering that it's the poorest municipality in Murcia region and one of the poorest in Spain and that brings its own particular challenges. There can sometimes be tensions with the migrant workforce who pick the fruit and veg and the locals. But wouldn't say unusually so. 

Ross

TonyH

Posted: Wed Jul 6, 2022 1:13pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 6, 2022 1:13pm

RossTrevor wrote on Wed Jul 6, 2022 11:33am:

Hi there,

I've been visiting the port for more than  5 years and have a place there. And I can honestly say that I have never had any problem whatsoever with the Spanish and count many of them as my friends,

I think what can be a problem in El Puerto is that some Brits can be very distant from the Spanish and not learn the language. And that can lead to misunderstandings. Also, with the overwhelmingly British enclave of Camposol, sometimes the Spanish think that it's off that Brits don't like to mix.

Several things to say about the Port. One thing I do like about the place is that it is a fully functioning town in its own right. Tourism is important, especially with the Spanish in the summer. It has had a hard time for the duration of the pandemic and is still finding its feet again in my opinion. Even in summer last year, in August when it should be at its busiest, it wasn't quite as buzzing as usual. Of course, this also means that it operates all year round and doesn't ever entirely shut down a some resorts do. Although winter can be a bit quiet at times. 

It's also worth remembering that it's the poorest municipality in Murcia region and one of the poorest in Spain and that brings its own particular challenges. There can sometimes be tensions with the migrant workforce who pick the fruit and veg and the locals. But wouldn't say unusually so. 

Ross

Thanks Ross. It’s great to get more information to start building a better picture before we visit. 

Regards

Tomy

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Sean41

Posted: Thu Jul 7, 2022 3:40pm

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Posted: Thu Jul 7, 2022 3:40pm

Hi Tony, have a look at Isla Plana. Its not far from the Port and offers the best of both worlds. Sean

TonyH

Posted: Thu Jul 7, 2022 4:35pm

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Posted: Thu Jul 7, 2022 4:35pm

Sean41 wrote on Thu Jul 7, 2022 3:40pm:

Hi Tony, have a look at Isla Plana. Its not far from the Port and offers the best of both worlds. Sean

Thank you. Will do. 

TonyH

Posted: Thu Jul 7, 2022 4:36pm

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Posted: Thu Jul 7, 2022 4:36pm

Lots of very affordable properties are coming up in Bahia. Is there a reason for their value being a bit lower? 

RossTrevor

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Posted: Thu Jul 7, 2022 4:41pm

Yes, Isla Plan is nice and worth examining. And it all depends on what you want. 

It's good to be the sea IMHO (which Camposol isn't) but it can be even quieter than the port in winter in my experience. And you would need a car (although there is a scant bus service). I personally do like to walk to the shops. :)

Ross

RossTrevor

Posted: Thu Jul 7, 2022 5:02pm

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Posted: Thu Jul 7, 2022 5:02pm

TonyH wrote on Thu Jul 7, 2022 4:36pm:

Lots of very affordable properties are coming up in Bahia. Is there a reason for their value being a bit lower? 

Hi there,

Bahia is the relatively newer development in the port. Depending where you are, it can be pretty quiet in winter but buzzing in summer. Quite a few of the bars a little further from the port don't open and I think the Farmacia closes for winter too. But it's a great location by the beach and not far into to town. Bahia literally means 'bay'.

There could be number of reasons why there are reasonable properties coming on the market.

1) Tis the season. Coming into holiday time a lot of Spanish owners may want to try and sell after sprucing the place up. 2020 was a wash out and last year wasn't the best year for the Port. (And some of those might be bank repossessions.) Running costs for holiday homes (as with all household bills) are going up too.

2) Property market hasn't been particularly bouyant for a few years in general. See above. Some corners of Bahia look a bit shabby too having maybe not had the attention they need since 2020. But I'm sure it will perk up.

3) Some blocks have had troubles with squatters/occupas. And by law the evictions process has been suspended since 2020 (I think it comes back in Sept this year.) Some have had to spend extra money on security measures to repel intruders. Most private holidayhouses are protected by a security service too. So doublecheck carefully on that with agents. Bahia isn't the worst place for this fwiw. Up by Lidl etc has probably got worse problems. Camposol isn't immune either.

4) Or it could be something else entirely!

Best, 

Ross. 

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