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Rules for Irish passport holder from UK

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:31pm
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Brianm142

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Can anyone please advise on this?

Me and my wife want to move to Costa Calida area in due course. I hold an Irish passport and my wife has a UK one. We both reside in the UK currently.

Would I be subject to the same rules as UK citizens after Brexit, or would I be treated as an Irish National? We would eventually want to acquire Spanish citizenship, however under rules for UK it appears to be very difficult since Brexit?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Brian

oadbyman

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:16pm

oadbyman

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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:16pm

Hi

You are by virtue of your passport Irish I.e. an EU citizen, your wife has no problems as she has treaty right so neither of you have any problem.

Why would you want to become a Spanish citizen instead of an Irish EU citizen?

Brianm142

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:25pm

Brianm142

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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:25pm

oadbyman wrote on Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:16pm:

Hi

You are by virtue of your passport Irish I.e. an EU citizen, your wife has no problems as she has treaty right so neither of you have any problem.

Why would you want to become a Spanish citizen instead of an Irish EU citizen?

Thanks for your reply. I was of the impression that we had to become Spanish citizens to reside in Spain after a certain period? By your comments it would appear this may not be true? I assume we can see our years out in Spain as EU citizens without the need to apply for citizenship?

Thanks again

Brian

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Mirarai

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:48pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:48pm

Brianm142 wrote on Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:25pm:

Thanks for your reply. I was of the impression that we had to become Spanish citizens to reside in Spain after a certain period? By your comments it would appear this may not be true? I assume we can see our years out in Spain as EU citizens without the need to apply for citizenship?

Thanks again

Brian

Hi Brian, I think you are confusing your citizenship with your residency.

Changing your citizenship changes the passport you hold...'citizen' tends to specify a person who legally belongs to a country, and 'resident' is used, generally, for a person who is legally living or working in a particular locality. You are legally obliged in any country to change your residency ('Residencia' here in Spain) after being there 6 months or more. And, yes, yours will be more straight forward...(EU citizens do not need a visa when moving to Spain as they are only required to register with the local police office in the city they will reside.) than your wifes (Non-EU citizens are required to complete various formalities that allow them to obtain temporary residence and then a permanent residency in Spain.) My humble advise is not to try to complete the process for your wife alone, do seek help as trying to understand which are the up to date required papers can be problematic. The help with my residencia application cost me 180€, best money I spent after months of trying alone and going round in circles. Best of luck with it all.

oadbyman

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:29pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:29pm

Mirarai wrote on Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:48pm:

Hi Brian, I think you are confusing your citizenship with your residency.

Changing your citizenship changes the passport you hold...'citizen' tends to specify a person who legally belongs to a country, and 'resident' is used, generally, for a person who is legally living or working in a particular locality. You are legally obliged in any country to change your residenc...

...y ('Residencia' here in Spain) after being there 6 months or more. And, yes, yours will be more straight forward...(EU citizens do not need a visa when moving to Spain as they are only required to register with the local police office in the city they will reside.) than your wifes (Non-EU citizens are required to complete various formalities that allow them to obtain temporary residence and then a permanent residency in Spain.) My humble advise is not to try to complete the process for your wife alone, do seek help as trying to understand which are the up to date required papers can be problematic. The help with my residencia application cost me 180€, best money I spent after months of trying alone and going round in circles. Best of luck with it all.

"your wifes (Non-EU citizens are required to complete various formalities that allow them to obtain temporary residence and then a permanent residency in Spain.",

This is not correct cannot correct tonight but official partners/wifes and family (dependant/Children) get Treaty rights the same as the EU pssport holder

Mirarai

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:52pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:52pm

oadbyman wrote on Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:29pm:

"your wifes (Non-EU citizens are required to complete various formalities that allow them to obtain temporary residence and then a permanent residency in Spain.",

This is not correct cannot correct tonight but official partners/wifes and family (dependant/Children) get Treaty rights the same as the EU pssport holder...

...

Thank you for correcting me, that's great for Brian and his wife.
(Even though I am a wife of an EU citizen living in Spain, having just gone through getting my residencia)

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