Could someone advise my husband and I how to get an NIE number before we come over to Spain in June. We want to buy a property and live there full time.
We have a UK state pension
Could someone advise my husband and I how to get an NIE number before we come over to Spain in June. We want to buy a property and live there full time.
We have a UK state pension
You need to research living in Spain full-time very thoroughly before you move over.
Things are just not as simple as they used to be before Brexit.
Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 8:09pm
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Retiring in Spain
Purchasing in Spain after Brexit
32 min. Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEl-xpj5Mf4
Moving to Spain: “Stolen from an other forum”
There are even bigger issues than that about Brits moving to Spain now...
The opportunity for UK citizens not already living in Spain to apply for Spanish Residencia via the EU citizens route finally ended on 31.12.20.
From 1.1.21 onwards if it is your intention to come to live in Spain (rather than simply visit the Schengen zone for the "up to 90 days in any running 180 day period" time limit that applies to all non-EU citizens) you must now BEFORE YOU COME first apply from within the UK to the Spanish Consulate in London (or Edinburgh), for the required pre-entry visa.
That's either a "Non-Lucrative Visa" under which you can temporarily reside in Spain for up to 12 months whilst you make your Residencia application, but which forbids any working for income (non refundable application fee currently £516 per person); or if you have a formal Spanish job offer in writing then a "Work Visa" (non refundable application fee £410).
One of the conditions of being granted a Non-Lucrative Visa is that you can show the Consulate proof of the minimum regular monthly income per applicant required by the Spanish Consulate (which they require you to have in order that you can support yourselves whilst in Spain and so not become a burden on Spanish taxpayers) .
There are several other requirements, including a criminal records check report, and proof of full-cover private Spanish medical insurance for the period of the visa, etc. Any supporting documents not in Spanish will need to be Apostiled and translated into Spanish by an official Translator
I would very VERY strongly advise you to make your pre-entry Visa application through a specialist lawyer, as if any part of your application does not meet the requirements your entire application will be rejected and your application fee lost.
You must have obtained that approved pre-entry visa BEFORE you then come to Spain, as it is that visa which gives you permission to reside temporarily in Spain whilst you then obtain and submit all your formal Residencia process documents etc.
Be aware that then once in Spain, as part of your Non-EU citizen Spanish Residencia application, as well as showing the approved Pre-entry Visa which allowed you to enter the country to live temporarily, you will need to show Spanish bank statements etc proof that you have brought into Spain a minimum of at least 4 x "IPREM" to support yourself, or documented proof you are earning more than that in Spain.
If you are bringing any other family members with you, then you must add at least 1 x IPREM for each of them.
This "IPREM" amount increased on 1.1.21. by 5% for year 2021 and is now 6772 euros.
So you will need to bring into Spain a MINIMUM approx 27,500 euros with you, plus 6,772 euros for each of any other family members, to qualify as financially self-supporting to obtain Spanish Residencia.
As part of your Residencia application you must also show proof that you've taken out at least an annual full, all-conditions-covered Spanish private health insurance policy (including cover for any pre existing conditions), for each person you are bringing in. Such a Spanish medical insurance policy is not cheap... perhaps at least 2,000 euros per person, and potentially much, much more in case of significant medical existing conditions.
There is also plenty of other bureaucracy on top of these big initial issues, including the requirement to take a Spanish driving test (in Spanish) as your (non-EU) UK driving licence ceases to be valid for use in Spain after you've lived there for 6 months.
More info here...
http://extranjeros.inclusion.gob.es/.../hoja010/index.html
And here....
http://www.exteriores.gob.es/.../Consulado/Pages/Visas.aspx
an other hurdle:
https://murciatoday.com/brexit-collides-with-1975-military-law-in-spain-british-housebuyers-must-now-obtain-military-permit_1552969-a.html
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 9:19am
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I agree that moving to Spain now is more risky and problematic due to Brexit. It matters significantly how much money you have etc in terms of pensions. If your dead set your best off getting in touch with a local solicitor who can help with all the paperwork. You can provide power of attorney from the UK and they can then apply for your NIE numbers and even open up a Spanish bank account. Any questions just ask. Mark.
Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 1:12pm
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This person has asked how they get an NIE number before coming over to Spain to buy a property. Thus fiscal number is required to buy or even rent, property in Spain and from my recollections takes 3-4 weeks for application to be processed. Unsure whether this can be done before coming to Spain, perhaps someone can help with this.
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Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 1:17pm
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Yep like I said can be done from UK with power of attorney via Spanish solicitor.
Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 1:19pm
FixIt2020 wrote on Tue Jun 1, 2021 1:17pm:
Yep like I said can be done from UK with power of attorney via Spanish solicitor.
Thank you for your reply, we are living in Portugal not UK
Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 1:22pm
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Trish53 wrote on Tue Jun 1, 2021 1:19pm:
Thank you for your reply, we are living in Portugal not UK
Same applies. You can still get a Spanish solicitor to sort out your NIE numbers. All can be done remotely. I can recommend LS Solicitors on La Torre Golf Course, Roldan, Murcia.
Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 1:26pm
FixIt2020 wrote on Tue Jun 1, 2021 1:22pm:
Same applies. You can still get a Spanish solicitor to sort out your NIE numbers. All can be done remotely. I can recommend LS Solicitors on La Torre Golf Course, Roldan, Murcia.
Thank you we will look into it
Posted: Tue Jun 1, 2021 4:46pm
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In the UK you can get one using the Spanish Embassy - would imagine you can do the same in Portugal?
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