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Pam20

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:16pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:16pm

upstream wrote on Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:52am:

The biggest problem with getting UK broadcasts is that they block you if they detect that your IP (Internet address) is outside of the UK. It is possible to get around this by using a VPN (Virtual Private Network) which effectively hides your real IP address and assigns a UK (or other country of ...

...your choice). This tricks the UK broadcast into thinking that the content is being accessed from within the UK and thus you can receive the TV shows.

When it comes to VPN's my understanding is that there are two types; Software based, where you install an app to your SMART TV or Firestick etc and hardware VPN's where a VPN is built into your TV Box. I'd say that the simplest for the non - tech savvy like myself is just to get a TV box that has the VPN already set up (some internet service providers offer this as part of their internet package) and away you go!

Other than that - As has been suggested, you could get a satellite dish and not have to bother about any of the VPN stuff and no ongoing fees either.

I hope this helps.

Thank you Eduardo, very helpful in taking us forward with tomorrow’s appointment

Pam20

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:18pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:18pm

Avril52 wrote on Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:58pm:

Fresh TV in Villa Martin supplied our English package via a modem.  It cost 180 per year, plus a one off price of the small box they supply.  However, you will need internet access.  The package we bought is very good, with very few problems, although their customer service skills ...

...at Fresh need some work.

Thank you Eduardo, very helpful in taking us forward with tomorrow’s appointment

Pam20

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:18pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:18pm

Avril52 wrote on Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:58pm:

Fresh TV in Villa Martin supplied our English package via a modem.  It cost 180 per year, plus a one off price of the small box they supply.  However, you will need internet access.  The package we bought is very good, with very few problems, although their customer service skills ...

...at Fresh need some work.

Thank you Eduardo, very helpful in taking us forward with tomorrow’s appointment

Pam20

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:22pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:22pm

Avril52 wrote on Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:58pm:

Fresh TV in Villa Martin supplied our English package via a modem.  It cost 180 per year, plus a one off price of the small box they supply.  However, you will need internet access.  The package we bought is very good, with very few problems, although their customer service skills ...

...at Fresh need some work.

Thank you Avril, your last comment put us off pursuing Fresh TV - maybe they are just local to Villa Martin, too. We are in San Pedro. 

Cyril392

Posted: Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:12pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:12pm

Pam20 wrote on Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:22pm:

Thank you Avril, your last comment put us off pursuing Fresh TV - maybe they are just local to Villa Martin, too. We are in San Pedro. 

Hi Pam, as has already been said, there are 2 paths you can follow - 

1. Traditional. Get a company to provide a satellite service. They will come and install an external receiving dish of some description, along with a small receiver box for your living room/wherever. They may charge you around €50 as a one-off installation cost, then typical costs are around €30/month. If you're not living here permanently, that is quite an expensive solution, ie €360/year, every year just for TV. 

2. Technology is advancing all the time, and nowadays it is possible to get TV services over the Internet. Indeed, many of the traditional satellite-dish services don't offer much more than the equivalent of "Freeview" (which is OK) but if you use the Internet, you can access many of the additional services that you may subscribe to back in the UK. A good example of this is Sky. If you subscribe to a piece of communications software known as a VPN (Virtual Private Network) you can install it on a device of your choice, then if you install SkyGo on the same device, you can access all the programmes included in your Sky package, (I haven't used PureVPN, but I can recommend NordVPN. I've also tried SurfShark but it wasn't able to deliver TV transmission from the UK) . A good VPN will only cost around €3/month if you subscribe for 2 years. 

Also, some TV services will run without any VPN at all. A good example of this is Netflix. I access Netflix (UK) using a different mechanism, by "casting" it directly to my TV monitor from my UK mobile phone (via Internet Broadband). To do this, I bought a Chromecast, a small device that plugs into one of the HDMI ports on my TV. The Chromecast device costs around £30. There's more good news if you're not planning to live in Spain full-time. I also have a place in San Pedro. One of the Internet Service Providers (ISPs) in San Pedro is Flexa. They offer a service called Internet Para Dias - Internet For Days - whereby you can switch your Internet connection off when you're not out here, so you only pay for the days when you're in Spain. 

Having said all of this, if you're a Technophobe, perhaps TV over your broadband connection is not for you. It can be fiddly, and if something fails to connect, you need to have a little understanding of how it's meant to work so that you can get back on track. It's also more fragmented, for example (with a VPN installed) all you need to access BBC I-Player is a Web browser and a BBC user account, whereas Sky has its own dedicated apps (SkyGo and Sky Sports). SkyGo can be more demanding to get it to work over a VPN, and that might put some people off, but if you have a Sky subscription and are prepared to persevere, it offers a lot of UK TV services through a single app. 

To sum up, using the Internet to deliver content like UK TV is a lot cheaper than traditional satellite systems, and arguably more versatile. However, the Internet approach requires a number of pieces of hardware and software to achieve a working TV facility. if you are a member of the "IT For The Terrified" community, it may be easier, and less frustrating, just to bite the bullet and go the satellite route. 

HTH

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Pam20

Posted: Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:14pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:14pm

Cyril392 wrote on Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:12pm:

Hi Pam, as has already been said, there are 2 paths you can follow - 

1. Traditional. Get a company to provide a satellite service. They will come and install an external receiving dish of some description, along with a small receiver box for your living room/wherever. They may charge you around €50 as a one-off installation cost, then typical costs are around �...

...�30/month. If you're not living here permanently, that is quite an expensive solution, ie €360/year, every year just for TV. 

2. Technology is advancing all the time, and nowadays it is possible to get TV services over the Internet. Indeed, many of the traditional satellite-dish services don't offer much more than the equivalent of "Freeview" (which is OK) but if you use the Internet, you can access many of the additional services that you may subscribe to back in the UK. A good example of this is Sky. If you subscribe to a piece of communications software known as a VPN (Virtual Private Network) you can install it on a device of your choice, then if you install SkyGo on the same device, you can access all the programmes included in your Sky package, (I haven't used PureVPN, but I can recommend NordVPN. I've also tried SurfShark but it wasn't able to deliver TV transmission from the UK) . A good VPN will only cost around €3/month if you subscribe for 2 years. 

Also, some TV services will run without any VPN at all. A good example of this is Netflix. I access Netflix (UK) using a different mechanism, by "casting" it directly to my TV monitor from my UK mobile phone (via Internet Broadband). To do this, I bought a Chromecast, a small device that plugs into one of the HDMI ports on my TV. The Chromecast device costs around £30. There's more good news if you're not planning to live in Spain full-time. I also have a place in San Pedro. One of the Internet Service Providers (ISPs) in San Pedro is Flexa. They offer a service called Internet Para Dias - Internet For Days - whereby you can switch your Internet connection off when you're not out here, so you only pay for the days when you're in Spain. 

Having said all of this, if you're a Technophobe, perhaps TV over your broadband connection is not for you. It can be fiddly, and if something fails to connect, you need to have a little understanding of how it's meant to work so that you can get back on track. It's also more fragmented, for example (with a VPN installed) all you need to access BBC I-Player is a Web browser and a BBC user account, whereas Sky has its own dedicated apps (SkyGo and Sky Sports). SkyGo can be more demanding to get it to work over a VPN, and that might put some people off, but if you have a Sky subscription and are prepared to persevere, it offers a lot of UK TV services through a single app. 

To sum up, using the Internet to deliver content like UK TV is a lot cheaper than traditional satellite systems, and arguably more versatile. However, the Internet approach requires a number of pieces of hardware and software to achieve a working TV facility. if you are a member of the "IT For The Terrified" community, it may be easier, and less frustrating, just to bite the bullet and go the satellite route. 

HTH

Wow!! Thank you for taking the time to allow us to examine various options. Today, we have arranged for Flexa to sort internet and Rainbow Satellites to sort tv access 🤞🤞. All a bit of a.quagmire but we’ll get there!! 

Cyril392

Posted: Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:22am

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Posted: Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:22am

Pam20 wrote on Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:14pm:

Wow!! Thank you for taking the time to allow us to examine various options. Today, we have arranged for Flexa to sort internet and Rainbow Satellites to sort tv access 🤞🤞. All a bit of a.quagmire but we’ll get there!! 

Yeah, probably a good choice if you're not an IT anorak (!). I don't know anything about Rainbow Satellites,  but it would be interesting to know how much they charge.. Flexa do a TV package as well, but I don't know  what it's like.

Good luck anyway!

Cyril392

Posted: Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:38am

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Posted: Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:38am

Cyril392 wrote on Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:22am:

Yeah, probably a good choice if you're not an IT anorak (!). I don't know anything about Rainbow Satellites,  but it would be interesting to know how much they charge.. Flexa do a TV package as well, but I don't know  what it's like.

Good luck anyway!

BTW, just had a quick look at Rainbow, and they are also offering an 'IPTV" service. That means that they can deliver TV over the Internet as a "Managed Service" - so the delivery mechanism is like the one I described in Option 2 of my original note, but Rainbow will deal with all the techno-bits, whereas mine was a "do-it-yourself" approach.

eduardo3332

Posted: Sat Jul 2, 2022 11:32am

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Pam20 wrote on Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:14pm:

Wow!! Thank you for taking the time to allow us to examine various options. Today, we have arranged for Flexa to sort internet and Rainbow Satellites to sort tv access 🤞🤞. All a bit of a.quagmire but we’ll get there!! 

Pam are you aware that Flexa also do a tv service and this should be included in your internet package without using another companyI have used flexa for many years in fact my contract still states San Pedro Wifi

Nickgar

Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2022 6:19pm

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Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2022 6:19pm

eduardo3332 wrote on Sat Jul 2, 2022 11:32am:

Pam are you aware that Flexa also do a tv service and this should be included in your internet package without using another companyI have used flexa for many years in fact my contract still states San Pedro Wifi

Have used Flexa for internet and TV access for a number of years. It's easy, just pay for the number of days you want at around 2 euros per day and they switch it on for when you arrive. Simple and easy, shows everything on the major channels but obviously an hour later at the moment with the time difference but you can also watch on catch up as well. We tend to not watch on Day 1 and then catch the next day. It's not Sky or Netflix but has all the freeview channels which is enough for us, we're on holiday not binge watching TV.

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