Do I need a Padron - Page 5

The answer is yes, I am sure, but I am not resident in Spain, I am resident in UK, Dual nationality Irish and UK, I do not spend over 90 days in Spain at a time but do spend over 90 days in 80 in the Schengen area.

EU citizens have freedom of movement, but laws about registering apply in my case

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-family/index_en.htm

full text of rules

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32018R1806&from=en#d1e32-54-1

Sorry should I should say I do not spend over 90 days in any country in a row.

This may explain I do not intend to reside in Spain over the 3 month limit

Ann 75 Thank you for my chuckle of the morning it was so refreshing to see how you handled the "jobsworths" on here. How things change, when I first bought my apartment in Marbella 16 years ago, we were encouraged by our local Town Hall to register for the Padron as this helped with the allocation of funds for things like schooling, hospitals infact all facilities to the area. For my personal view up to date is I think, like you, give it several months and a working relationship between the UK and Spain viz a vie Home owners in Spain, will come about. I too have said many times that the cost of living will escalate in Spain if all non-residents who own homes, are restricted to useage. They/we will start looking elsewhere to spend our money.

Hmm I joined this topic because I am sure that it was sáid they were going to changes their address on their nie which is impossible as nies do no have an address.  And now you are chuckling at what you call jobsworths.  Whatever they are.  As for the padrón you do not register on the padrón unless you are resident the reason being funds are allocated for as you said and it is not really a laughing matter for funds to be allocated to the wrong regions.  We bought 21 years ago and we were never encouraged to register on the padrón illegally.  And I am definitely not a jobsworth just a normal honest person.

I'm glad to hear you got a chuckle out of my comment - laughter being the best medicine & all that -  and good to know that there are others out there who share my thoughts on the matter.

 Yes, let's take a breath and let the dust settle a bit before jumping any fences. We bought in Spain around the same time as you & this issue never raised its head before. I'll be keeping an eye and an ear out for any unusual developments from what has been the norm for a very long time 

Well my NIE carries my address, perhaps they changed the rules since you got yours?   I don't think anything was suggested about registering for a Padrón illegally. 

I understand the logic of the purpose of a Padrón but obviously if you are not a resident you don't apply for one so that answers that question. 

It's  just an observation but if the purpose of a Padrón is to establish where to put schools, footpaths etc. which is paid for by taxpayers what happens to the thousands of property owners who are not residents & don't pay taxes in Spain? Are they not to he provided with footpaths, street lighting etc.? I would imagine the authorities have other ways of establishing where such amenities should go & while Padróns may help in this regard I would imagine it's purpose isr more far reaching than that.

Hi I don’t see how a nie carries your address as it is a number you get it so you can by a house etc so how can it have your address if you have to have one before you can buy.  As for the padrón i thought you were implying you were encouraged to get one and did even though you are a non resident.  I apologies if I have got this wrong 

Ann75......you mentioned the thousands of property owners who are not resident and don’t pay tax......all holiday home owners (your situation if you are not legally resident) should pay Non Residents tax.....an area of the law that Brexit may see more focus on....

No problem Jackie, & no apology needed. I can only say that having checked my NIE again, it definitely carries my address. As I previously said, perhaps they changed the format  And no, I didn't apply for or get a Padrón. 

I can see why you might be puzzled but when we first purchased here I recall the agent bringing us to the office where NIE's  are issued and it was then that our address was recorded, that was in Catalunya.  Perhaps that is the system there.  A few years later we were asked to record our NIE again, same number of course and we were issued with a fresh paper again hearing our address. We moved south since then. 

Yes, you are correct - sorry, my mistake. I meant income tax. I know many people rail against the non resident tax, many say it is unlawful but it is required and we pay it, as well as Property tax, car tax etc. etc.