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Jfalcs

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 3:08pm

Jfalcs

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Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 3:08pm

RichT wrote on Sun Feb 4, 2024 1:51pm:

A friend who is a vet advised not to fly dogs in the hold of planes unless you absolutely have to - he says there is a disproportionate percentage of deaths and he would never do it.

If you feel confident & competent to drive, then take your time, drive through France or take the Bilbao / Santander to Plymouth / Portsmouth ferries. On the ferries, you can either have the dog in onboard kennels or even book a cabin where your dog can stay with you. If driving, many hotels ...

...in France accept dogs, even budget brands such as Ibis. You can do it in 2 days, but I would allow 3 to enable more exercise & pee stops!

If you then register your dog  in Spain and have a 'european passport' for her, this is far simpler and cheaper than bringing your dog from the UK, when you will need a certificate every trip. However, you will still need to have a vet check her out and give a anti-rabies vaccine every time you return to the UK.

On  the dangerous dog point, if you register the dog here, you will be required to have her micro-chipped; insurance (including public liability insurance); prove that you are strong enough to control the dog; and it has to be on a lead and muzzled when in public.

Hope this helps!


Hi - many thanks for your reply.  I have had a few friends advise against flying and she is 9 years old so it would be a lot for her.  Very useful points to think about so thank you again

Many thanks

Janet

Jfalcs

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 7:14pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 7:14pm

rayreen wrote on Sun Feb 4, 2024 1:46pm:

Good luck finding a flight from Spain to UK. If you find one please let me know by private message and if I find a company I will let you know too itene

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Thank you - will do 👍

Dolly 71

Posted: Mon Feb 5, 2024 9:20pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 5, 2024 9:20pm

Chrise812 wrote on Sun Feb 4, 2024 8:26am:

Hi Janet.

We live here now but spent last year backwards and forwards using Brittany ferries Portsmouth to Santander. 

I just checked their booking system as we thought we might nip back for a week. We now have a little rescue dog with us. All the dog friendly cabins have gone for this year, they get booked up very quickly. You would do well to join their loyalty system. You get discounts but also get advance booking before general release.

I guess that leaves eurostar. Our neighbours use that route with their two elderly sausage dogs. Plenty of dog friendly hotels in France, use the filter on booking.com 

You best check with your vet for the latest regulations on vaccination for the dog and its passport requirements etc.

Also be mindful of the 90 day rule as you mentioned coming for a month at a time.

Los Alcazares is lovely,  we had dinner there last night. Most places welcome dogs on the covered terrace.  She looks lovely,  Staffies are the best. Our first dog Tara was with us 8 years, she was a rescue staff. She passed away at 15.5 years old the year before we bought here. We have her ashes with us. I tell our little Jack she trained us to be good dog people! 

Hi lots of pet friendly hotels on route but will she have to be muzzled in Spain under new rules best check that out and a license mite be needed

Loriforsythe

Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:54am

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Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:54am

Jfalcs wrote on Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:40pm:

Hi

We have just bought an apartment in Los Alcazares.  We want to start coming out for a month at a time and bringing our Staffy with us.  We are not sure best way to bring her out to Spain

Can anyone please from experience give us a bit of advice best way either plane or car and ferry/Eurostar.

Many thanks

Janet

Good morning Janet,

I am living close to Los Alcazares and have a 12 year old staffie. For two years I was travelling with him between Northern Ireland and Spain. I went via Bilbao to Rosslare. On his first journey I bought a mild sedative for him just in case he was anxious. I also bought animal graded hemp oil. I didn't need either as he travelled well. He has now made 5 journeys and is very calm. I always book a pet friendly cabin for us. I also stop off at the many services or park areas on the way to give him toilet breaks and exercise.  Doing this my journey usual takes 13 or 14 hours from Bilbao to San Pedro. If you feel this is too long to drive there are many pet friendly hotels along the way.  I have an EU pet passport as we are from N. Ireland, but I would advise you to get one here in Spain as it will make life a lot easier for you. Also staffies are on the Dangerous dog list and need to be registered with the town hall and also be covered by liability insurance for €200k. The insurance part is easy to get as most home insurance companies will cover you staffie on your house insurance. Staffies need to be muzzled at all times and I spent 6 months training my boy to wear it. Also needs to be worn on the ferry. When I was staying a few months at a time I didn't register him as he was on "holiday" so to speak. It was too warm for him to go out for walks from 9am so I walked him at 5am unmuzzled. There was no one about at that time. I carried my insurance and muzzle just in case. The police have driven past me on numerous occasions when he is unmuzzled and I haven't been stopped. I have seen lots of Staffies being walked unmuzzled. The only thing you need to really worry about if walking unmuzzled are the little handbag dogs who are brave enough to snap at your ankles. If your staffie retaliated then you would probably be blamed. Not right I know. I can just assume your pup is like mine. Getting on in years and just the biggest softie ever. Couldn't care about other dogs and just wants to go for a leisurely walk. Now that he lives here he is fully legal, registered and insured. Hope this may help you. 

Lorraine

Eamonn

Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 11:42am

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Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 11:42am

RichT wrote on Sun Feb 4, 2024 1:51pm:

A friend who is a vet advised not to fly dogs in the hold of planes unless you absolutely have to - he says there is a disproportionate percentage of deaths and he would never do it.

If you feel confident & competent to drive, then take your time, drive through France or take the Bilbao / Santander to Plymouth / Portsmouth ferries. On the ferries, you can either have the dog in onboard kennels or even book a cabin where your dog can stay with you. If driving, many hotels ...

...in France accept dogs, even budget brands such as Ibis. You can do it in 2 days, but I would allow 3 to enable more exercise & pee stops!

If you then register your dog  in Spain and have a 'european passport' for her, this is far simpler and cheaper than bringing your dog from the UK, when you will need a certificate every trip. However, you will still need to have a vet check her out and give a anti-rabies vaccine every time you return to the UK.

On  the dangerous dog point, if you register the dog here, you will be required to have her micro-chipped; insurance (including public liability insurance); prove that you are strong enough to control the dog; and it has to be on a lead and muzzled when in public.

Hope this helps!


Euro tunnel is a great way to go as long as you enjoy driving. Also depends what part of Spain you are heading to. Calais to Mazarron for example is @ 1250 miles. You can do it in 2 stops but more enjoyable if you take 3. French hotels are so dog friendly as are the restaurants and bars etc. Tolls are approx’ £100 each way.

As for your dog, if you have a property in Spain, then get a Spanish passport for your dog-you need to return at least once a year for your dog to have a the booster rabies injection, which needs to be once a year in Spain not 3 years as in the UK.

You do not need to see a British vet upon your return.

Without a passport it will cost you @£200/£250 for a ‘Animal Health Certificate issued by a ‘special’ vet and this only lasts for 4 months.

You do not need to see a British vet upon your return. 

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Hornplayer

Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 1:12pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 1:12pm

Jfalcs wrote on Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:40pm:

Hi

We have just bought an apartment in Los Alcazares.  We want to start coming out for a month at a time and bringing our Staffy with us.  We are not sure best way to bring her out to Spain

Can anyone please from experience give us a bit of advice best way either plane or car and ferry/Eurostar.

Many thanks

Janet

Hi Janet.

We haven’t got a property in Spain, but we are planning a long holiday next winter with our dog, I have joined a Facebook group ‘ Animal Health Certificate’ (not to be confused with ‘Animal Health Certificate UK’). This has been a brilliant group for information from dog (and cat!) owners. Many have properties in Spain, and some just going for holidays. I think you’ll find it worth joining. There’s a chap on there called Ian Bond. He often replies to posts, and is clearly a very knowledgeable chap. Look out for his replies if you join. Hope this helps. 

Matte

jillyw

Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 8:45pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 8:45pm

Hi, We have a staffy and before we brought her over here, we had to have a vet certificate which cost us a fortune everytime we came over. The border control are very stringent with this certificate. Check with your own vet to see if they do it, otherwise you have to find one. Costly!!!

Brittany Ferries the cabins are very few and far between. I don't like to put my dog in a cage, so we go via the tunnel, lot more driving but it is so quick, 35 minutes and your in France. The tunnel is very strict on the vet certificates too. 

If you have a place over here, you can register your dog with a vet in Spain, thus making her a a Spanish resident, then no need for the vet certificates, Must have a microchip! but you do have to have a rabies jab each year, have a check plus worming before leaving Spain to go back to the UK which cost wise is minimal.  Coming back to Spain, as long as you show border control her passport, you can just enter the EU. no jabs, no worming nothing!!! 

Hope this helps. Jill 

Jfalcs

Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:53pm

Jfalcs

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Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:53pm

jillyw wrote on Wed Feb 7, 2024 8:45pm:

Hi, We have a staffy and before we brought her over here, we had to have a vet certificate which cost us a fortune everytime we came over. The border control are very stringent with this certificate. Check with your own vet to see if they do it, otherwise you have to find one. Costly!!!

Brittany Ferries the cabins are very few and far between. I don't like to put my dog in a cage, so we go via the tunnel, lot more driving but it is so quick, 35 minutes and your in France. The tunnel is very strict on the vet certificates too. ...

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If you have a place over here, you can register your dog with a vet in Spain, thus making her a a Spanish resident, then no need for the vet certificates, Must have a microchip! but you do have to have a rabies jab each year, have a check plus worming before leaving Spain to go back to the UK which cost wise is minimal.  Coming back to Spain, as long as you show border control her passport, you can just enter the EU. no jabs, no worming nothing!!! 

Hope this helps. Jill 

Thank you very much - we will definitely will take her to a Spanish vet and get that sorted.  We have decided to drive and go Eurotunnel


many thanks shain

jillyw

Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 11:32pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 7, 2024 11:32pm

Jfalcs wrote on Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:53pm:

Thank you very much - we will definitely will take her to a Spanish vet and get that sorted.  We have decided to drive and go Eurotunnel


many thanks shain

Your very welcome,  but you will have to get a vet certificate & rabies jab! Can be  expensive! Jill. 

Daz

Posted: Thu Feb 8, 2024 12:05pm

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Posted: Thu Feb 8, 2024 12:05pm

Hi Janet 

My wife and I, with 2 dogs travelled from Staffordshire to Quesada last September for our first drive, through the Chunnel 35mins and down to Angers, France which took around 8hrs.Stopped over night in dog friendly hotel, then on to our place in Quesada about 11 hrs drive stopping every 3/4hrs for the dogs and a stretch,nearly 24hrs we arrived and after 3 weeks we travelled back ,took 21 hrs with overnight stay.. 

I wouldn't esitate to do it again as the roads plus scenery were fantastic....Probably September/October when we mover permanently...hope you and your family have a great time...

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