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I am thinking about buying a property in United Golf Resort, any advice or comments. - Page 3

Lynn2001

Posted: Fri Dec 3, 2021 9:09pm

Posts: 28

12 helpful points

Location: La Tercia

Joined: 6 Jun 2021

Posted: Fri Dec 3, 2021 9:09pm

mark 60 wrote on Fri Dec 3, 2021 2:35pm:

Lynn can you tell me if the block above the old seventh green has finally fallen down or been demolished

Hi Mark. It’s still there. We hear rumours about disagreements between the insurers, architects and developers and that it will soon be demolished but….who knows! This is Spain!

graydale

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:09pm

Posts: 5

3 helpful points

Location: La Tercia

Joined: 11 Feb 2022

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:09pm

Bill17520, Mark60 and Lynn2021......... This bickering is becoming REALLY annoying.  It's horses for courses.  Lynn loves La Tercia, Mark doesn't.  Mark likes Los Urrutias, Lynn doesn't.  So what?  I quite like them both, but for completely different reasons.

As far as La Tercia is concerned, it has to accepted that all the Murcia golf course Resorts have faced horrendous financial problems since 2008 and people who bought early on in the planning and construction stages were caught up in the mess, many still without the facilities originally promised.  The La Tercia owners and community appear to have made great strides in this regard.

Whilst by me pointing out the history of the Resorts doesn’t help current owners, sceptics or criticisers, it has to be understood (and unfortunately accepted) that the effect of the “crash” meant that nearly all the Resorts became part of a huge bankruptcy fiasco and therefore remained uncompleted, some in better shape than others. 

However, current owners/financial managers, with a great deal of help from Owners’ Communities, have strived to make as much progress as they can (or are able or allowed to make) to put the planned commercial and golf facilities in place and very slowly head towards further development and completing the original concepts for the Resorts and the area as a whole.  Some have managed it, others struggle on.

Prices have remained static or have fallen in most, but certainly not all, of the Resorts so it does seem to be a good time to consider buying.  I am currently in that situation and will weigh up the pros and cons before doing so.  I will however, in doing so, close my ears to any sarcastic comments or mere opinion (because that’s mostly what we get) and will make my own mind up.


Seamus T

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:52pm

Posts: 82

34 helpful points

Location: Lo Pagan

Joined: 23 Dec 2021

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:52pm

Hi Tommy,

My advice is buy anywhere other than on a golf course.

Nothing but problems and cost elevated

Seamys T

graydale

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:20pm

Posts: 5

3 helpful points

Location: La Tercia

Joined: 11 Feb 2022

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:20pm

Seamus T wrote on Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:52pm:

Hi Tommy,

My advice is buy anywhere other than on a golf course.

Nothing but problems and cost elevated

Seamys T

Seamus T.  As I'm thinking of buying on a golf course can you please give me some examples of what problems you know of so that I can be aware of what I might have to face before I make a decision.  I don't understand what you mean by "cost elevate".  Do you mean community charges or something else?  My thinking is that, if I buy now with some apparent "bargains" around, I should gain in the long term.  Am I being naive?

Catherine

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:37pm

Posts: 37

13 helpful points

Joined: 7 Apr 2021

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:37pm

graydale wrote on Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:20pm:

Seamus T.  As I'm thinking of buying on a golf course can you please give me some examples of what problems you know of so that I can be aware of what I might have to face before I make a decision.  I don't understand what you mean by "cost elevate".  Do you mean community charges ...

...or something else?  My thinking is that, if I buy now with some apparent "bargains" around, I should gain in the long term.  Am I being naive?

Hi Seamus

We bought in 2019 in las terrazas de la torre golf resort. Good bargains there. I don't  agree with the post  advising not to buy on a golf resort. We have had no issues. We pay 80 euro per month community  fees. The security is excellent the grounds are kept very good. Any issues the management  are very quick about sorting them.  The clubhouse is closed since covid hopefully  this year it will reopen. For us it's a great base to explore Murcia. 15 minutes from Murcia international  airport. 15 minutes from the beach at los alcazares.  You should  check it out. We found resales better value than bank repos  as they  are furnished  so you dont have  that expense. 

Catherine 

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Seamus T

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:40pm

Posts: 82

34 helpful points

Location: Lo Pagan

Joined: 23 Dec 2021

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:40pm

graydale wrote on Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:20pm:

Seamus T.  As I'm thinking of buying on a golf course can you please give me some examples of what problems you know of so that I can be aware of what I might have to face before I make a decision.  I don't understand what you mean by "cost elevate".  Do you mean community charges ...

...or something else?  My thinking is that, if I buy now with some apparent "bargains" around, I should gain in the long term.  Am I being naive?

Well Tommy.

All I sm giving is my own experience, I first bought in Spain in 2001 and I was thinking exactly like you. I know thst properties have reduced considerably on golf compmexes bu I also know friends who needed to sell and had to take a big hit on the prices. Depends what environment you want, if you want to be amidst  Irish, English and some Northern europeans then thats what your community will be like. If on the other hand you want a purer spanish environment then re consider. I am in my 4th property after 20 years and I must say the soanish neighbours and way of lufe in much more fulfilling. You are wise to  chat around before you buy but you know living around other golfers can be very boring....and I know this cos I am one of that category. And dont be offended, my views are very personal to me and my exoerience!!

Best wishes

Sesmus T

ann75

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:18pm

ann75

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Posts: 525

266 helpful points

Joined: 2 Jul 2019

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:18pm

graydale wrote on Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:09pm:

Bill17520, Mark60 and Lynn2021......... This bickering is becoming REALLY annoying.  It's horses for courses.  Lynn loves La Tercia, Mark doesn't.  Mark likes Los Urrutias, Lynn doesn't.  So what?  I quite like them both, but for completely different reasons.

As far as La Tercia is concerned, it has to accepted that all the Murcia golf course Resorts have faced horrendous financial problems since 2008 and people who bought early on in the planning and construction stages were caught up in the mess, many still without the facilities originally pr...

...omised.  The La Tercia owners and community appear to have made great strides in this regard.

Whilst by me pointing out the history of the Resorts doesn’t help current owners, sceptics or criticisers, it has to be understood (and unfortunately accepted) that the effect of the “crash” meant that nearly all the Resorts became part of a huge bankruptcy fiasco and therefore remained uncompleted, some in better shape than others. 

However, current owners/financial managers, with a great deal of help from Owners’ Communities, have strived to make as much progress as they can (or are able or allowed to make) to put the planned commercial and golf facilities in place and very slowly head towards further development and completing the original concepts for the Resorts and the area as a whole.  Some have managed it, others struggle on.

Prices have remained static or have fallen in most, but certainly not all, of the Resorts so it does seem to be a good time to consider buying.  I am currently in that situation and will weigh up the pros and cons before doing so.  I will however, in doing so, close my ears to any sarcastic comments or mere opinion (because that’s mostly what we get) and will make my own mind up.


While I  agree with practically everything you said, I have to defend Lynn2021 (I may have got the year wrong), she was most respectful and indeed restrained in her replies and to compare her to the other two individuals seems entirely unfair. Surely people can have a different point of view like she has without being included in the comparison you draw? 

Otherwise a great post, thank you. 

Lynn2001

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:30pm

Posts: 28

12 helpful points

Location: La Tercia

Joined: 6 Jun 2021

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:30pm

ann75 wrote on Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:18pm:

While I  agree with practically everything you said, I have to defend Lynn2021 (I may have got the year wrong), she was most respectful and indeed restrained in her replies and to compare her to the other two individuals seems entirely unfair. Surely people can have a different point of view...

... like she has without being included in the comparison you draw? 

Otherwise a great post, thank you. 

Thank you, Ann.

Kind regards

Lynn

Seamus T

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:35pm

Posts: 82

34 helpful points

Location: Lo Pagan

Joined: 23 Dec 2021

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:35pm

ann75 wrote on Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:18pm:

While I  agree with practically everything you said, I have to defend Lynn2021 (I may have got the year wrong), she was most respectful and indeed restrained in her replies and to compare her to the other two individuals seems entirely unfair. Surely people can have a different point of view...

... like she has without being included in the comparison you draw? 

Otherwise a great post, thank you. 

Hi Folks,

Calm it, dont forget that this is just a forum for clients to air their experiences, positive and negative. No one is trying to make a bob illegaly....but the benefit for new visitors to the beautiful area of Murcia must surely be not to make the same mistakes of earlier visitors who just unfortunately became victims of a recession and many over zealous property developers and sales people who dealt rather sharp practice schemes. Everyone is entitled to tbeir own opion....I personally feel new clients in golf complexes are more open to being ripped off than clients just purchasing to enjoy the wonderful climate. I think we have seen more than enough of unfair and untruthful advertising in the Brexit campain so people should learn from their silly mistakes!!

mark 60

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:12pm

Posts: 26

1 helpful points

Location: Hacienda Riquelme

Joined: 16 Mar 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:12pm

graydale wrote on Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:09pm:

Bill17520, Mark60 and Lynn2021......... This bickering is becoming REALLY annoying.  It's horses for courses.  Lynn loves La Tercia, Mark doesn't.  Mark likes Los Urrutias, Lynn doesn't.  So what?  I quite like them both, but for completely different reasons.

As far as La Tercia is concerned, it has to accepted that all the Murcia golf course Resorts have faced horrendous financial problems since 2008 and people who bought early on in the planning and construction stages were caught up in the mess, many still without the facilities originally pr...

...omised.  The La Tercia owners and community appear to have made great strides in this regard.

Whilst by me pointing out the history of the Resorts doesn’t help current owners, sceptics or criticisers, it has to be understood (and unfortunately accepted) that the effect of the “crash” meant that nearly all the Resorts became part of a huge bankruptcy fiasco and therefore remained uncompleted, some in better shape than others. 

However, current owners/financial managers, with a great deal of help from Owners’ Communities, have strived to make as much progress as they can (or are able or allowed to make) to put the planned commercial and golf facilities in place and very slowly head towards further development and completing the original concepts for the Resorts and the area as a whole.  Some have managed it, others struggle on.

Prices have remained static or have fallen in most, but certainly not all, of the Resorts so it does seem to be a good time to consider buying.  I am currently in that situation and will weigh up the pros and cons before doing so.  I will however, in doing so, close my ears to any sarcastic comments or mere opinion (because that’s mostly what we get) and will make my own mind up.


graydale, I dont want a row mate, im just talking from 13 years of experience, first I dont know why you are saying we like uterus, christ I cant even spell it , let alone like it , or even been there !, my story is 13 years old, through parador and united golf at la tercia golf course we deposited 61,000 euroes on an apartment block,  2 weeks short of the completion date the pool collapsed , then rendering started to fall off the block, THIS WAS BEFORE THE FINANCIAL CRASH, the two blokes that were agents threatened my family that if we did not complete on the falling down apartment they would sue us and take away our home in England, we didnt complete, but I feel sorry for the folks that did, who are still paying a mortgage for somewhere they cannot enjoy, to stop any further confusion or rows folks please send me a personal message, as my 13 year experience is too long to post

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