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GerryT

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 10:19pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 10:19pm

Julia61 wrote on Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:52pm:

Hi Gerryt yes it was Los Alcázares thanks for the information I will get insurance but as you say it needs to cover more than 48 hours if they are in they n to get rid of them cheers Sheila 

I will check my insurance tomorrow with the insurance company. I guess its easy to jump over a gate, pity they managed to get in. I suppose it's harder for them if the property is on a lit row of properties, but you never know. I hope you get it sorted and it doesn't take too long.

Austinwrk

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:49am

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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:49am

It's the stuff of nightmares..  my heart goes out you.

I was "fortunate"  the police were helping  but then my dodgy neighbour stepped in when police were gone and said  he I didn't call police folks would move out quietly and leave everything intact

So I went away, came back in 2 hours  received the (changed locked) key from him and went in   to find nothing left in the place.. but at least they were gone.  I live in dreaded FEAR  it might happen again. I thought living in an apartment block might help  but no. If you have dodgy neighbours in the block  uts probably worse

But it is a nightmare and   hopefully  a solicitors letter might se them move or someone to chat to them. So you at least get property back. The insurance paid for the replacing of stuff   but mentally it was exhausting   . 

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Gaza

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:38am

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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:38am

Hi Sheila 

Long shot my next door house was occupied by gypsies for over a year and they infiltrated my electricity and I on arriving from the UK hadto pay over 100 EUR to get it connected again.But the house next door was a bank repo and a spanish man bought it knowing it was occupied and made a payment to them to leave?.I think it was 1000 euro.They did leave the house in a state ie no kitchen?taken in the night also furniture.Also if a child is in the house with an adult you have no chance to evict them.It was quite awful at the time and as an ex squaddie soldier even though I could be handy to use force I found it impossible to do as I was outnumbered on a few occasions.Unfortunately it's going to cost you and the bad part is the spanish system is useless to help people who have worked for years to better themselves. Good luck .

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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:15am

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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:15am

Gaza wrote on Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:38am:

Hi Sheila 

Long shot my next door house was occupied by gypsies for over a year and they infiltrated my electricity and I on arriving from the UK hadto pay over 100 EUR to get it connected again.But the house next door was a bank repo and a spanish man bought it knowing it was occupied and made a payment to...

... them to leave?.I think it was 1000 euro.They did leave the house in a state ie no kitchen?taken in the night also furniture.Also if a child is in the house with an adult you have no chance to evict them.It was quite awful at the time and as an ex squaddie soldier even though I could be handy to use force I found it impossible to do as I was outnumbered on a few occasions.Unfortunately it's going to cost you and the bad part is the spanish system is useless to help people who have worked for years to better themselves. Good luck .

The last thing I'd give em is money  especially knowing they will leave your place in a mess n with very little afterwards..  and it will ENCOURAGE them to do it to others.. but each to their own

Gaza

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:19pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:19pm

Austinwrk wrote on Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:15am:

The last thing I'd give em is money  especially knowing they will leave your place in a mess n with very little afterwards..  and it will ENCOURAGE them to do it to others.. but each to their own

When the powers that be DO NOT HELP YOU to get rid I'm afraid payment to get them out is a last quick resort.They use the Law for their own means even stooping  to the level of borrowing a small child to stay in the house.If only the Spanish can make Laws as good as their food and my general point being you do anything to keep your castle.Well being from Yorkshire it's bread in you and maybe it's a quick fix than letting things rumble on in the courts for so many years.The winner being solicitors interpreters etc and costing a far greater sum of 1000 euro.

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RichT

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:51pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:51pm

I'm not necessarily advising this, however, a former colleague in the UK had a similar problem.

While you can't legally use force to evict someone from your home, they can't prevent you (or people acting on your behalf) moving in with them! My friend who had a similar situation in the UK arranged for two very handy blokes to move in and make the squatters lives a misery - and they soon left...

Julia61

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:18pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:18pm

RichT wrote on Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:51pm:

I'm not necessarily advising this, however, a former colleague in the UK had a similar problem.

While you can't legally use force to evict someone from your home, they can't prevent you (or people acting on your behalf) moving in with them! My friend who had a similar situation in the UK arranged for two very handy blokes to move in and make the squatters lives a misery - and they soon left...

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That's exactly what I want to do but no sure if I would get in trouble 

Cheers Sheila 

eduardo3332

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:34am

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:34am

Julia61 wrote on Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:18pm:

That's exactly what I want to do but no sure if I would get in trouble 

Cheers Sheila 

I would not think this is a very good idea in Spain and if they are Gypsies I would think they would have a large following of family and friends so I would be very carful in taking and action besides a legal one.

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:10pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:10pm

Julia61 wrote on Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:18pm:

That's exactly what I want to do but no sure if I would get in trouble 

Cheers Sheila 

I so feel for you Sheila and cannot believe that squatters have more rights than honest people. Unbelievable.  Hope you find a solution 

RichT

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:33pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:33pm

eduardo3332 wrote on Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:34am:

I would not think this is a very good idea in Spain and if they are Gypsies I would think they would have a large following of family and friends so I would be very carful in taking and action besides a legal one.

I agree and that's why I said I wasn't necessarily advising similar action. 

However, it is infuriating that some people (criminals) take advantage of the poor approach of the Police and the legal system. 

I have also seen reports that these squatters work for criminal gangs whose aim is to extort money in, effectively, a ransom for the return of the property - as mentioned by other respondents.

The more you make a fuss and make their lives difficult, the more likely they are to move on to a softer target:

You could report that they are illegal immigrants? If you state they are 'Gypsies', they may be Roma or of similar appearance and be from Romania, Albania, etc. - although there is a history of Roma in Spain. Even though Romania is in the EU, any EU citizen still needs to register as residents to live in Spain and also prove means to support themselves - which I guess is unlikely for squatters. plus, their residency should show where they live (not your property).

You could report them for burglary / theft - if they have used any electricity or water when the supply is in your name; or if they have eaten any food or drink left in the property; or if they caused damage breaking in.

There are companies, such as the below, who offer a service in this area.

https://serviokupas.com/en/evictions-company-in-alicante/

Good luck and please update with your progress.

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