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Gipsy squatter

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:53am
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Julia61

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Hi my name is Sheila I wanted to ask if anyone had any dealings with gypsies as I have gypsies squatting in my flat what is the best way to get rid of the gypsies 

Thank you 

Sheila 

Dax

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 9:30am

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 9:30am

You need to report them to the police, ideally within the first 24 to 48 hours of them being in your property, before they have time to establish themselves. Then you need a lawyer to start legal proceedings against them. It isn't easy to get them out.

Julia61

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 9:49am

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 9:49am

Dax wrote on Sun Aug 8, 2021 9:30am:

You need to report them to the police, ideally within the first 24 to 48 hours of them being in your property, before they have time to establish themselves. Then you need a lawyer to start legal proceedings against them. It isn't easy to get them out.

  • Thanks dax they have been there all through lockdown so I will need to start the process of getting them out thanks for your help Sheila 

Roland

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 10:20am

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 10:20am

Have a look at this thread, there is some useful information there for you.

Squatters in my house in Aguilas

eduardo3332

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 12:23pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 12:23pm

Hi Sheila

This is the situation with squatters you may find it useful, 

I have also posted details of a company that may be of assistance to you

This company has a good reputation maybe you would like to check them out .

Unfortunately there is not really much good news for you as squatters or Okupas as they are called in Spain, the law can quite often be on there side and it can take a long time to remove them and new laws were passed in 2018, and the police have done ther job by informing you, a couple of things you may or may not know. I copied this from a legal web site,

The Spanish system protects squatters over property owners

This is how the system works against you as a property owner in Spain, and favours squatters, especially the mafias who use squatters to exploit the system.

If you own a holiday home in Spain, and squatters break in without your knowledge, and stay for 48 hours undisturbed, then you have a big problem on your hands.

In other countries, you would simply call the police, and have them kicked out forthwith. But not in Spain, where squatters have more rights than property owners once they have moved in. This is related to another corrosive trend – the long term erosion of private property rights in Spain.

If you miss the immediate window of opportunity to report squatters to the police when they are breaking in, or shortly after, you lose your best chance of getting them out quickly the legal way with little cost and risk.

Once they are installed, with the locks changed, and personal possession in place, it will look less like a break in, and more like the squatters live there. They will get squatters’ rights, and it could take you months, if not years, to have them evicted.

Because of the way the law and legal system works in Spain, if you call the police once the squatters have settled in, the police are not going to stick their neck out for your sake. They prefer to leave it to the courts. The only circumstance in which the police will kick out squatter without a judicial order is if it is clear the squatters have just broken in and have not had time to get installed and make a show of living there.  So you have to act within hours of a break in.

If you call the police too late, you will find yourself locked in a slow and costly judicial process to get the squatters out. During that time you have to continue paying the utility bills, because if you cut off the water and electricity, the squatters will report you to the police, and you risk being charged with intimidation and coercion.

https://nosquatters.com/

[email protected]

Tel 0034.623377791 


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Julia61

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 6:08pm

Julia61

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 6:08pm

eduardo3332 wrote on Sun Aug 8, 2021 12:23pm:

Hi Sheila

This is the situation with squatters you may find it useful, 

I have also posted details of a company that may be of assistance to you

This company has a good reputation maybe you would like to check them out .

Unfortunately there is not really much good news for you as squatters or Okupas as they are called in Spain, the law can quite often be on there side and it can take a long time to remove them and new laws were passed in 2018, and the police have done ther job by informing you, a couple of things you may or may not know. I copied this from a legal web site,

The Spanish system protects squatters over property owners

This is how the system works against you as a property owner in Spain, and favours squatters, especially the mafias who use squatters to exploit the system.

If you own a holiday home in Spain, and squatters break in without your knowledge, and stay for 48 hours undisturbed, then you have a big problem on your hands.

In other countries, you would simply call the police, and have them kicked out forthwith. But not in Spain, where squatters have more rights than property owners once they have moved in. This is related to another corrosive trend – the long term erosion of private property rights in Spain.

If you miss the immediate window of opportunity to report squatters to the police when they are breaking in, or shortly after, you lose your best chance of getting them out quickly the legal way with little cost and risk.

Once they are installed, with the locks changed, and personal possession in place, it will look less like a break in, and more like the squatters live there. They will get squatters’ rights, and it could take you months, if not years, to have them evicted.

Because of the way the law and legal system works in Spain, if you call the police once the squatters have settled in, the police are not going to stick their neck out for your sake. They prefer to leave it to the courts. The only circumstance in which the police will kick out squatter without a judicial order is if it is clear the squatters have just broken in and have not had time to get installed and make a show of living there.  So you have to act within hours of a break in.

If you call the police too late, you will find yourself locked in a slow and costly judicial process to get the squatters out. During that time you have to continue paying the utility bills, because if you cut off the water and electricity, the squatters will report you to the police, and you risk being charged with intimidation and coercion.

https://nosquatters.com/

[email protected]

Tel 0034.623377791 


Hi Eduardo thanks for the information I have emailed no squatters and waiting to hear from them cheers Sheila 

Anni20

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:31pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:31pm

Sheila, what a terrible situation to find yourself in…makes one think about needing to add some security…

I hope you get it sorted soon.

GerryT

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:43pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:43pm

I think the laws for owners is crazy, same as in UK. I will check my insurance  as I know it has cover for squatters breaking in but if it only applies as soon as they've broken in then it's not much use, chances are they'll be there without anyone knowing. It must be not only frustrating for you,I would be furious,I wish you luck. Was it in Los Alcazares? 

Julia61

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:48pm

Julia61

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:48pm

Anni20 wrote on Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:31pm:

Sheila, what a terrible situation to find yourself in…makes one think about needing to add some security…

I hope you get it sorted soon.

Thank you for your reply I need to get insurance that's covers squatter I had front gate locked, grill on front door but hay ho if they want to get in they will need to give the neighbours numbers if they see any thing strange going on cause its not fare on them cheers Sheila 

Julia61

Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:52pm

Julia61

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Posted: Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:52pm

GerryT wrote on Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:43pm:

I think the laws for owners is crazy, same as in UK. I will check my insurance  as I know it has cover for squatters breaking in but if it only applies as soon as they've broken in then it's not much use, chances are they'll be there without anyone knowing. It must be not only frustrating fo...

...r you,I would be furious,I wish you luck. Was it in Los Alcazares? 

Hi Gerryt yes it was Los Alcázares thanks for the information I will get insurance but as you say it needs to cover more than 48 hours if they are in they n to get rid of them cheers Sheila 

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