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You have to prove when you arrived....if you’re stopped for any reason!!! Many ways to prove you are in Spain so why take the chance!
And you will pay non resident tax if you own a property
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:58pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:04pm
Austinwrk wrote on Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:31pm:
It's 182 days. But they have no real way of monitoring. But if your worried just come down through France or claim you have. Thanks to schegen there are no border controls at all. I'm not sure they check. Just means as non resident your not taxed, but at same time cannot claim benefits
It will not be 182 days— as previously mentioned by earlier posts, as non residents it is 90 days only in 180, after your first 90 days you must leave all of Europe and spend the next 90 days in a non EU country before being allowed to return for a further 90. If you travel by ferry your passports are checked and logged, if you fly your passports are checked and logged,if you use the eurotunnel your passports are checked and logged. Whichever way you choose to travel to France or Spain (or elsewhere in Europe) you are monitored. I also believe if you choose to stay for only 60 days you cannot return for the other 30 within the same 180.If you somehow exceed 183 days in a year, (1st Jan till 31st Dec) you automatically become a tax resident, liable for Spanish tax on all your worldwide assets, any uk property, savings or investments held. Yes as a non resident you pay a “ property tax”, based on the potential rental income you could receive on your Spanish holiday home, even if you don’t rent it out! A lot of the taxation checks are carried out through the banks, currently you need to sign a declaration with the Bank every 2 years to confirm you are still non resident for tax reasons, if you fail to do this your bank accounts are liable to be blocked.
The Schengen Agreement is for non European countries, not EU. It makes interesting reading if you have spare time, it may help you understand the rulings after 1st Jan unless specific arrangements are made otherwise by the end of December. Jaz
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:40pm
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Jaz wrote on Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:04pm:
It will not be 182 days— as previously mentioned by earlier posts, as non residents it is 90 days only in 180, after your first 90 days you must leave all of Europe and spend the next 90 days in a non EU country before being allowed to return for a further 90. If you travel by ferry your passpo...
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...rts are checked and logged, if you fly your passports are checked and logged,if you use the eurotunnel your passports are checked and logged. Whichever way you choose to travel to France or Spain (or elsewhere in Europe) you are monitored. I also believe if you choose to stay for only 60 days you cannot return for the other 30 within the same 180.If you somehow exceed 183 days in a year, (1st Jan till 31st Dec) you automatically become a tax resident, liable for Spanish tax on all your worldwide assets, any uk property, savings or investments held. Yes as a non resident you pay a “ property tax”, based on the potential rental income you could receive on your Spanish holiday home, even if you don’t rent it out! A lot of the taxation checks are carried out through the banks, currently you need to sign a declaration with the Bank every 2 years to confirm you are still non resident for tax reasons, if you fail to do this your bank accounts are liable to be blocked.
The Schengen Agreement is for non European countries, not EU. It makes interesting reading if you have spare time, it may help you understand the rulings after 1st Jan unless specific arrangements are made otherwise by the end of December. Jaz
The schegen agreement is for no Borders between mainland EU countries https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area. And info for getting residence as EU citizen https://balcellsgroup.com/move-to-spain-as-an-eu-citizen/
Austinwrk wrote on Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:40pm:
The schegen agreement is for no Borders between mainland EU countries https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area. And info for getting residence as EU citizen https://balcellsgroup.com/move-to-spain-as-an-eu-citizen/
I know ffs this does not apply to me !!!
I'm married to a eu citizen !!!!!
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