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dmoss

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:20pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:20pm

I never voted as saw the two as similar sorry to say the remains wish the system of Europeans living off the British tax payer being able to collect benefits on arrival thatime is why most voted to leave to try and stop this benefit free for all. But we do nred workers from europe to fill the gaps that benefit scroungers in the UK will not do its a shame that instead of Brexit we could not sort out the unfair system Britain offers try and get unemployment here in Spain print France this is why lorries are used to transport people to the UK who throw away their passport on arrival so they cannot be returned 

So  Brexit is not the problem the unfair system is the problem hopefully now it has been voted on and retainers lost they will now stop winging and start backing the country instead of saying it would be better had they won their way did not work 

Lastly the boris Johnson clown?

Do you really believe that anyone could possibly see diane Abbot and her leader taking over England the thought is of financial disaster and an open door policy 

Someone who backed the Ira 

Backs unlawful actions by the minority 

The problem is we have the best of a bad lot but the alternative is worrying I have lived here 20 years and think the Spanish system though they are also fiddling their money etc but still superior to the UK just look at the health service here hospit also etc

Kevin55

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:48pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:48pm

The problem is the complete system in the UK has been unfair for a number of years and has nothing to do with remainers or brexiteers. How successive governments have allowed people from all walks of life to come in to the UK and bleed us for every penny they could is totally uncomprehendable. Year in and year out the politicians turn their backs on the problems and instead focus on themselves. And the poor general public lose out. Watching the millions fall for Boris's lies about £350 million every week being sent to Brussels and this would then be spent on the NHS was simply mind boggling. And then after the referendum to have the clown deny he had meant that was just laughable. To see Gove and Boris enact their Caesar and Brutus scenario, in the process killing off (thankfully) both their chances of becoming PM was only overhauled in the tragedy by seeing Theresa May step forward to pick up the baton and drop clanger after clanger, culminating of course in the General Election fiasco in which she has now become a dead woman walking, with Boris et al waiting in the wings for the right time (probably when the UK has totally cocked up the Brexit negotiations) to step forward as our saviour to put things right!

Of course, the fickle British public have now done a huge U turn and have found a new messiah in Jeremy Corbin, who has a somewhat chequered past, the same as does Boris, Gove and the rest of their ilk. Being perfectly honest, they are ALL as bad as each other and what stands out a mile is that nobody was prepared with any genuine plan of what to do should we have won the right to remain or exit the EU. The only losers are the British people. Sadly, many still seem unaware of that yet. In 2 years time, when prices start escalating in UK shops, and the NHS problems increase dramatically, they will certainly know then! Many EU nationals have already returned back to their home countries as they are not prepared to have the blame for all the UK's woes laid at their feet.

For now, many will bury their heads in the sand and blame the foreign immigrants for all our problems. They are the easy targets. But wait 2 more years and see how the vast majority of Brits enjoy being out of the EU. As someone who has spent the vast majority of their life overseas, I have seen the UK gradually go downhill, but instead of blaming immigration, blame should be heaped on the politicians who have let the country go downhill, the lazy benefit grabbers who milk the system for all they can and those who pretend to offer hope but actually are only intent on lining their own pockets. The people of the UK are reaping what they sowed, and they will be reaping even more in a couple of years time.

dmoss

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:21am

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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:21am

I still disagree we must now get behind whoever to make this go right and stop talking it down as I said I never voted because I saw no benefit in a Europe with 600 or more leaches bleeding the country people like e  labour leader neil Kinloch his wife and his whole family are on the European payroll and when his department was found to have diverted money for their own use 8 people resigned but not the family who represent in theory the low paid but still they will soon be gone and boris I have no thoughts about but again it is tome to back the people negotiating and after listening to the French Nd Germans I am glad we are out let's go back to dealing with Canada America Australia new Zealand we were ok before so let's hope this will come out right and people who are just being be losers get behind whoever to let people know we do not need Europe they need us but as a trying partner not as a payer of another bunch of MEPS getting paid to decide on how bent a banana should be and how long  cucumber is only two important things they have undertaken 

I am wholly backing Brexit because that is what the British public voted for and as I said the bad lookers are doing g nothing but harm to the negotiations by saying they think that all those people who voted for it were misguided 

I did not vote but I respect the majority forget regional variations otherwise elections would be different 

Kevin55

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:10am

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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:10am

I disagree entirely but am not going to get caught up in a pointless argument. We need Europe as our closest trading partners. I regard myself as European. End of. 

dmoss

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:30am

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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:30am

Trading partner yes but part of an out of control congome rate no 

Just now hope the deal is good 

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dmoss

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:09pm

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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:09pm

Forgot to say I and and i am sure the many people who have read this conailer themselves British not European I would sooner align myself with Canada Australia or any of the other friendly countries 

Kevin55

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:07pm

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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:07pm

Strange that someone who has lived in Spain for 20 years would rather align themselves with Australia and Canada who are supposedly "more friendlier" than European countries....

Why then are you living in such an "unfriendly " country? Perhaps if You HAD lived in the countries mentioned you may look at things different. I have and I know I prefer Spain.

dmoss

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:57pm

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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:57pm

Been to all three lived in 2 

daughters living in two I live in Spain for the weather and the Spanish people but ask them if they ate European or Spanishave they like Britain are proud to be British like they are proud to be Spanish 

Not European you sadly are showing the signs of a bad looser we all lose sometimes in life but try and get behind the majority and back Brexit not keep downing it and anyone to do with it many people fighting for it voted to remain but are abiding by the majority and trying their hardest to get a good deal with the loosers trying to change something that is over so we all have to live with it 

Kevin55

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:08pm

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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:08pm

Lol......I am certainly not a bad loser. I voted to stay in as I think we are making a big mistake, but I certainly did not lose. 52% voted to come out and it is a fact that many of them would vote differently now if given a chance having seen the inept preparation and infighting of a government that simply does not have a clue about negotiating a proper deal for the UK. However, 48% voted to remain and that number has swelled considerably since 12 months ago.

I am not somebody to bang a drum and go on about we should all fight to stay in as it is clear the British public can be swayed at a whim, but I will certainly not give Brexit my support as I have absolutely no confidence in the Government to deliver anything remotely beneficial to the UK in the negotiations. 

Everybody has their own opinions and I have mine. Just because I do not subscribe to your chosen viewpoint is irrelevant. I have no problem with your viewpoint as you should have no problem with mine, meaning it is churlish of you to call me a bad loser, as I most certainly am not.

dmoss

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:37pm

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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:37pm

In a game of football or similar the winning side gets to go through the loosers do nothe but the Brexit loosers are now aging if there was another vote? So why should they do keep replaying the game until your side wins? Remember I did not vote as sadly I see no benefit for you or I because we do not participate in the receipt of finances that either way someone will win I can only assume you are not British because to be aligned with the French and Germans and damming boris and gove? What have they done wrong just trying to make the best of a result perhaps some disagree with 

I am proud to be british and my UK passport is very important I do not want to be a european nor would there passports be worth that of a UK I have enjoyed our discussion but as I said there must come a time when we all back the country and not keep trying to change or say that the deluded people would change their vote ?? 

We all have our views mine are not as compulsive as yours because I neother won nor lost 

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