Time in Spain - Page 2

Also, the 90 days apply to all of Schengen Europe, not just Spain. I've seen a few people who think they can go to Portugal or France after 90 days to reset their counter, but that won't work. What counts is when you enter and when you leave the Schengen area. For example, if you drive to Spain from the UK through France, and spend two days in France both on the outbound and return journeys, then you effectively have a maximum stay of only 86 days in Spain.

I see things are going to change quite soon, thank goodness, have you seen the news report about up tu o 3 years passes going to be granted for travel and work permits Spain needs money, ans I. Would have thought the travel industry was a great big thing to them xx

For economic reasons Spain is quite keen on some sort of bilateral agreement with the UK in order to remove the worst constraints of the 90/180 rule and return to a more flexible arrangement like the one we had before serial liars Garage and Bozo persuaded enough of the dumbed-down generation that cutting off one of their limbs, and without any anaesthetic was actually a  really good idea. Certainly, the current constraints are palpably unfair to those Brits who are not Spanish residents, but own property in Spain, (I.e. have invested significantly in a country, and even more unfairly are obliged to continue to pay full-rate taxes on those investments), with severely restricted access. Unfortunately, this matter is a lot further down the UK government's list of priorities, particularly with what's going on in Ukraine right now. Parliamentary lobby anyone? How about s human rights platform? Not holding my breath on this one.

Why would Spain be "keen on some sort of bilateral agreement with the UK in order to remove the worst constraints of the 90/180 rule and return to a more flexible arrangement" when they have not chosen to do so with other third countries? Why do so many Brits have delusions of grandeur about their importance in the world and always think that they don't have to comply with the rules that everyone else has to comply with? The UK voted to leave the bloc that gave them the special privileges and yet still wants to have the benefit of these now that they have left. British second-home owners are no different from all the other second-home owners that come from all the other third countries around the world. Being a member of an exclusive club means that those who don't want to join the club, cannot come in and take advantage of all the benefits. How about the human rights of all the British citizens who are legal, permanent Spanish residents and were denied a vote in the removal of the rights that they had previously and have been dragged out of the club that they worked hard to belong to?

I don't understand how Spain will be able to do a special deal with the UK regarding the 90/180 rule - surely it would be a matter for the whole of the Schengen area - if people think working out how many days they can stay is complicated under the current rules imagine how much more complicated it would be if one or more countries in Schengen had different rules to the rest!

Yeah, a bilateral agreement is unlikely to happen because Schengen is an EU law. It would require the member states to agree to such an exception. However, Love, and economic expediency may find a way. The human rights comment was meant as a joke - seems as though that one fell on stony ground. Even so, it still sounds a whole lot more plausible than Bozo's plan for a sub-terranean tunnel between the Mull of Kintyre and Torr Head, or Trump's proposal to ingest bleach to combat COVID.