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rma44

Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 11:21am

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Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 11:21am

CFC1905 wrote on Wed Jul 7, 2021 9:44am:

Bit of a broad comment about racists and bigots in the UK. Think you will find those in every country, even Spain

As for Camposol I totally agree that it is not everyone's cup of tea but I also understand those who defend it. There are some lovely properties on Camposol and yes some have dodgy backgrounds but that was just standard back in the day when everyone wanted a deal at the best price...

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Things have moved on and although Brexit has limited the time 2nd homeowners can spend in Spain you can still spend 90 days as opposed to a 2 week package holiday which is what the majority of people are limited to

Not all doom and gloom but again reiterate, not everyone's cup of tea 

I don't think it was 'standard' in Spain, but it was certainly standard for Masa! They didn't only build at Camposol, they built Ciudad Quesada from scratch and were the main builder at Gran Alacant prior to going bust. The best advice I can give when thinking of buying a Masa property is 'Buyer beware' and do your homework thoroughly. Do not rely on hearsay; agents or solicitors for opinions or 'facts'.

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Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 11:31am

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Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 11:31am

I would suggest it was not just Masa but across many parts of Spain and Europe. You will always get people/firms willing to exploit for a profit

Personally I think while you can do as much homework as possible you have to trust the local knowledge, you just have to ask the right questions

Buying a property is the same experience in any country and each individual must make their own choices and decisions. You have at least provided a warning for others to take heed of

rma44

Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 11:50am

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Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 11:50am

I agree, at the turn of the century, new property prices in Spain were going up week on week and tower cranes were almost a permanent feature in Spain. Low prices in general created a massive UK demand. I have only bought properties in Spain, apart from England, where I built them myself, so I can't comment on other countries.

Any property can look attractive....paint can cover a multitude of problems but the OP is considering Camposol where Masa was the main developer. It's important to know that Masa's building technique was far different from the traditional Spanish way, and presented so many 'new' problems. Their properties were aimed at the holiday market rather than for permanent habitation.

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Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 11:52am

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Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 11:52am

Definitely rent there first.

It depends what you’re looking for. We lived there happily for many years, but problems with dogs barking, rented houses beside and behind, parties till the wee small hours, not to mention the lack of general maintenance by he local council, forced us to move and we’re so glad we did. 

There’s no doubting there’s a community spirit in Camposol, and the sheer number of people means you will always get help if you have a problem. Like everywhere there is good and bad. However, if you decide you don’t like it, it’s not cheap to move house in Spain , so rent first to make sure and, wherever you decide to buy in the end, check it out really carefully. 

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Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 12:39pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 12:39pm

I agree with Floki, rental properties can be a nightmare! Way back when I first bought in Spain ( a Masa house incidentally but not on Camposol), Brits couldn't buy fast enough due in the main to the endless property shows in every town in Britain. Many of my neighbour's bought but could only afford their mortgaged Spanish house if they rented it out, and that's when you wish you'd never have bought there! I know Spain has tried to catch up with the new rental laws but there will always be those who think they can get away with it.

With a low cost, high density development you will have holiday renters near you or next door. Some will be fine, but many couldn't care less about you or the area. If you short list a property, go and see it at all times of the day and night during the holiday season. 'The Place in the Sun' tv programme always seem to show urbanisations which are deserted, they never go there when they're heaving!

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CFC1905

Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 12:45pm

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My only comment about rented properties is that they are probably rented for the standard 2 week vacation in which case I would fully expect them to "enjoy themselves".

Luckily all around us are permies and we are the only 2nd homeowners so not experienced those issues, although things do liven up when friends or family visit. But for me, that is to be expected and is never longer than 2 weeks

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Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 1:03pm

CFC1905 wrote on Wed Jul 7, 2021 12:45pm:

My only comment about rented properties is that they are probably rented for the standard 2 week vacation in which case I would fully expect them to "enjoy themselves".

Luckily all around us are permies and we are the only 2nd homeowners so not experienced those issues, although things do liven up when friends or family visit. But for me, that is to be expected and is never longer than 2 weeks...

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If it was only for two weeks it wouldn’t be a problem. Two weeks then the next lot would arrive. So at least 3 months of different holiday makers , plus Easter and October break. And three houses like this within a hundred yards. 

No matter how much you want people to enjoy their hols there’s only so many times you want to be awake half the night. The fault is the owner, who really should tell the renters about the local by-laws regarding excess noise. 

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Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 1:12pm

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As I said, we have been lucky. Agree that the owners should get renters but at the end of the day they are only interested in a cash income

Total luck of the draw but with D being the largest sector with most home owners on there I guess that reduces the potential problems but without any guarantees

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Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 6:35pm

PhilMadox wrote on Fri Jul 2, 2021 9:57am:

The posters seem to fiercely defend Camposol, and who can blame them. I often see posters 'warts and all' sort of comments from residents who appear to bitterly regret buying into the place, which is fair enough and in my opinion just as helpful as those telling how wonderful it is. 

Off course, like anywhere I suppose, jumping on a plane with cheque book in hand, buying in haste regretting at leisure is a bad situation to find oneself in. I sort of fall into that situation myself having bought shortly before Brexit. I bought in 2015 and would not have done so by 2016. I neve...

...r imagined that the UK would vote to leave in a million years. I seriously underestimated the number of bigots and racists living in England.

The definition of democracy is that two idiots can outvote a genius. Brexit was crazy to be put up to a vote when you think three years later nobody still what the outcome would be. 

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Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 11:45pm

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Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 11:45pm

PhilMadox wrote on Fri Jul 2, 2021 9:57am:

The posters seem to fiercely defend Camposol, and who can blame them. I often see posters 'warts and all' sort of comments from residents who appear to bitterly regret buying into the place, which is fair enough and in my opinion just as helpful as those telling how wonderful it is. 

Off course, like anywhere I suppose, jumping on a plane with cheque book in hand, buying in haste regretting at leisure is a bad situation to find oneself in. I sort of fall into that situation myself having bought shortly before Brexit. I bought in 2015 and would not have done so by 2016. I neve...

...r imagined that the UK would vote to leave in a million years. I seriously underestimated the number of bigots and racists living in England.

Wow one of the reasons I think people voted to leave is because of that attitude, it's over ,the vote was cast,move on ,good or bad,time will tell    yes I'm also interested in possible buying a place here.  This forum is very helpfl    Thanks

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