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Camposol Safety & Security

Posted: Thu Aug 5, 2021 10:39am
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As there have been a large number of post on this forum about security on Camposol I thought this information might be of use to people.

It appears that yet another company ( there have been several over the last 10 years ) is proposing to set up a security service.

I have copied the information below from the published minutes of the CRA ( Camposol Residents Association ) that are available online.

Please not that I am not the author of the content & neither agree nor disagree with the contents.

My only comment is Mmmmm.

8.1. Security

NJ Reported he had visited the offices on A Sector and met with Charlotte Boyce of AGT, the people offering the security services. He went in a personal capacity but did explain his association with CRA. She of course immediately offered to come to a meeting and give us a presentation. AGT is a company owned by a lady who works at the Ayuntamiento, who apparently has seen records of incidents on Camposol over an unspecified period of time, which has led her to the conclusion that Camposol needs a security service. Apparently the list of records includes, burglaries, robberies, hugger muggers etc. Charlotte says she has seen this list. I did ask how it is that a list exists that seems to contradict the police, who always say there is not enough reported crime on Camposol to justify a police presence. This is quite disconcerting as it means that someone at the town hall is using council and possibly private information to their commercial advantage. Nothing new I suppose, but I did not want to push the point as it may have been counterproductive. It appears that the woman works in a department where she has access to such information. The service will be open for all home owners and businesses to sign up to. In the first instance they plan to have one car for the entire urbanisation that will have 2 “highly trained” operatives who have gone through a six year training programme “similar to the police. In fact they are a private police force”. They will be Spanish nationals, who have received this training. They will patrol the whole of Camposol in the hours of darkness, probably 10.30pm until 7am in the summer and 7pm to 8am ish in the winter. They will also patrol on foot in the A and B sector business areas, ‘as a deterrent’. They will have the right to enter premises of only ones that have signed up and can detain suspects. They are waiting authority from the region to be armed. The legal arrangement is that AGT will contract with Salzillo (a very large national security company) to provide the services. Their aim is to have one car, double crewed for each sector, but only if there are enough customers. This lady is definitely a sales person and refers to the fear that residents are living under, scared to go out of their houses, scared of robbers and is adamant that the police will not provide any service on Camposol as “Camposol Is not part of Mazarrón” I challenged this and although she didn’t back down, she didn’t repeat it. This will be a hard sell using fear as a driver, whether justified, or not, it seems. I asked what additional benefit there would be for those households that have already taken out monitored security systems. She said that they will be working with the security companies. When I explored this further, it seems that this involves the customer of the security company changing the number to be called if the alarm activates. She said the benefit will be attendance within a max of 15 minutes, whereas the police could take an hour and a half, if they attend at all. I did ask if this initiative is supported by the mayor and she said she has no reason to believe it is. Apparently she used to live on Camposol but now lives in Mazarrón. That’s about it as a summary. The fact that the person behind this works at the Ayuntamiento is probably worthy of more investigation. As I said I didn’t want to rattle her cage on this first meeting, but wonder if we should take her up on her offer of meeting with the committee to explain the offering. Invite the lady to attend a committee meeting as offered, so she could make a presentation and we may also have reciprocal ideas. Then perhaps arrange an ‘open’ meeting. Perhaps enquire of Silvana as to her knowledge of the list which is apparently so large that this company has been set up and yet the problem has been ignored by the ayuntamiento and the Police.


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Posted: Fri Aug 6, 2021 8:04am

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Posted: Fri Aug 6, 2021 8:04am

There has been a meeting at Marionos and I believe only 4 attended.

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Posted: Fri Aug 6, 2021 8:09am

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Posted: Fri Aug 6, 2021 8:09am

Sunnyspain wrote on Fri Aug 6, 2021 8:04am:

There has been a meeting at Marionos and I believe only 4 attended.

Yes only 4 attended the meeting a few weeks ago.

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Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 10:05am

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Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 10:05am

People who live in their properties have far less fear of them being robbed as there houses are actually occupied all the time.

People who use them as holiday homes are finding it very hard to actually to get to Spain with all the varying country restrictions in place because of Covid.

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Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 10:15am

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Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 10:15am

Properties are being broken into whilst occupied as well. Another was early hours of this morning whilst owners were asleep. 

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Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 2:44pm

Sunnyspain wrote on Sat Aug 7, 2021 10:15am:

Properties are being broken into whilst occupied as well. Another was early hours of this morning whilst owners were asleep. 

I spent a day in Camposol on Monday last week, looking at buying a holiday home.

Obviously security is very important to me, but is it any worse than anywhere else in either Spain or UK ?

Do security bars on doors and windows and maybe CCTV and an alarm hinder or stop theives ? 

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Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 3:06pm

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Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 3:06pm

AndyNewell wrote on Sat Aug 7, 2021 2:44pm:

I spent a day in Camposol on Monday last week, looking at buying a holiday home.

Obviously security is very important to me, but is it any worse than anywhere else in either Spain or UK ?

Do security bars on doors and windows and maybe CCTV and an alarm hinder or stop theives ? 

We’ve got the latest snap locks which are really good & a new type of locks on the windows inside the Villa & two mains dust to Dawn lights and solar lighting and next door to us live here permanently which is a big help.


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Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 3:35pm

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Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 3:35pm

AndyNewell wrote on Sat Aug 7, 2021 2:44pm:

I spent a day in Camposol on Monday last week, looking at buying a holiday home.

Obviously security is very important to me, but is it any worse than anywhere else in either Spain or UK ?

Do security bars on doors and windows and maybe CCTV and an alarm hinder or stop theives ? 

Dawn to dust lights and definitely anti snap locks. Security cameras don't seem to deter them. We also have locks on the inside of windows and film fitted over windows which helps stopping them looking in.

Its not just camposol but they seem to be really targeting D sector over the last few months. 

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Posted: Sat Aug 7, 2021 3:43pm

Thanks guys

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