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paulsav

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:30am

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:30am

smileygeorgey wrote on Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:26pm:

90% in Spain have Securitas ??? where do you get that figure from I know of many in Fortuna area who had securitas but their pricing has changed that greatly and I personally would not have securitas who sell it promising so much but in the event of problems a different story will unfold in my ex...

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If you reread my reply, I said 90%of people "with" alarm systems have Securitas, not 90% of people have Securitas alarms. There is a difference! There are not many alarm companies in Spain as in Uk especially monitored systems, and its your opinion if you feel their pricing is unacceptable. I have had mine for 10years and any problems which have been rare have been met with an engineer calling within days of my contacting them. I pay 35€month over past 2 years, after I requested they suspend my system now we spend 6months a year in the home during our stays but maintain the other 6months, but they offered me an alternative which was 20€ per month off the price I had been paying all year round. Obviously a little more over the year but a great compromise as I have their security all year round. Having lost over 20k€ worth of belongings in a total ransacking of a fully furnished 5 bedroom home in 2008 and a crap insurance Co who refused to pay out without us taking them to court, believe me I feel satisfied my small monthly price gives me peace of mind and allows me to stop worrying it might ever happen again. I equate it to less than 2 meals out per month. If we were drinkers, probably just a couple of nights out? 

Regards 

Pauline. 

Lesley08

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:58am

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:58am

paulsav wrote on Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:30am:

If you reread my reply, I said 90%of people "with" alarm systems have Securitas, not 90% of people have Securitas alarms. There is a difference! There are not many alarm companies in Spain as in Uk especially monitored systems, and its your opinion if you feel their pricing is unacceptable. I hav...

...e had mine for 10years and any problems which have been rare have been met with an engineer calling within days of my contacting them. I pay 35€month over past 2 years, after I requested they suspend my system now we spend 6months a year in the home during our stays but maintain the other 6months, but they offered me an alternative which was 20€ per month off the price I had been paying all year round. Obviously a little more over the year but a great compromise as I have their security all year round. Having lost over 20k€ worth of belongings in a total ransacking of a fully furnished 5 bedroom home in 2008 and a crap insurance Co who refused to pay out without us taking them to court, believe me I feel satisfied my small monthly price gives me peace of mind and allows me to stop worrying it might ever happen again. I equate it to less than 2 meals out per month. If we were drinkers, probably just a couple of nights out? 

Regards 

Pauline. 

Thank s Pauline. That must have been an awful experience. 

I have spoken to a few people now and am amazed at how many people have silent alarms and just rely on security monitoring. I know you can't rely on neighbours but surely a robber would run if he heard it going off. We are getting it sorted today. 

paulsav

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:43am

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:43am

Lesley08 wrote on Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:58am:

Thank s Pauline. That must have been an awful experience. 

I have spoken to a few people now and am amazed at how many people have silent alarms and just rely on security monitoring. I know you can't rely on neighbours but surely a robber would run if he heard it going off. We are getting it sorted today. ...

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Pleased you are getting it sorted and I must ask did you find an alarm engineer then as I have been trying to find one to service my English wired one as the Company in Javea are reluctant to travel now they have expanded over the years. When Securitas fitted mine they told me it was illegal to have a sounder go off outside disturbing people. It seemed weird but there is a loud internal one and a person who immediately comes on warning burglar the police have been called. 

However when my English wired one was fitted engineer said it was more likely Securitas didn't want the constant complaining from Police. I had the English one done as I wanted the sounder(like you I think it's a deterrent) also I wanted one that phoned my keyholder or myself when a break-in took place. Yes our ransacking was a nightmare and Caixa Bank,s refusal to pay out hence 2 alarms for added peace of mind. Please advise if you have found an alarm contact

Regards 

Pauline. 

smileygeorgey

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:58pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:58pm

paulsav wrote on Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:43am:

Pleased you are getting it sorted and I must ask did you find an alarm engineer then as I have been trying to find one to service my English wired one as the Company in Javea are reluctant to travel now they have expanded over the years. When Securitas fitted mine they told me it was illegal to h...

...ave a sounder go off outside disturbing people. It seemed weird but there is a loud internal one and a person who immediately comes on warning burglar the police have been called. 

However when my English wired one was fitted engineer said it was more likely Securitas didn't want the constant complaining from Police. I had the English one done as I wanted the sounder(like you I think it's a deterrent) also I wanted one that phoned my keyholder or myself when a break-in took place. Yes our ransacking was a nightmare and Caixa Bank,s refusal to pay out hence 2 alarms for added peace of mind. Please advise if you have found an alarm contact

Regards 

Pauline. 

When I lived with a lady here in fortuna for 5 years we had a securitas alarm and we went to a local restaurant one friday at 20.00 and returned at 22.30 only to find that we had been burgled and the battery in the fob had gone flat so did not set and as we had shutters that stopoped the beep being heard we did not know. Insurance company came round and discovered the alarm not set and i showed him if you hit the fob then set it it worked but in the end we got absolutely nothing from the insurance. I now have an alrm fitted which makes a lot of noise outside the property unlike the securitas which mainly makes a noise in the house. As well as a lot of noise it also rtings my phone or one of 2 key holders nearby. But in doing this I insure the house stating there is no alarm as I will not give insurance companies any loops to jump through.

I am more than happy with what I have

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smileygeorgey

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:01pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:01pm

paulsav wrote on Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:30am:

If you reread my reply, I said 90%of people "with" alarm systems have Securitas, not 90% of people have Securitas alarms. There is a difference! There are not many alarm companies in Spain as in Uk especially monitored systems, and its your opinion if you feel their pricing is unacceptable. I hav...

...e had mine for 10years and any problems which have been rare have been met with an engineer calling within days of my contacting them. I pay 35€month over past 2 years, after I requested they suspend my system now we spend 6months a year in the home during our stays but maintain the other 6months, but they offered me an alternative which was 20€ per month off the price I had been paying all year round. Obviously a little more over the year but a great compromise as I have their security all year round. Having lost over 20k€ worth of belongings in a total ransacking of a fully furnished 5 bedroom home in 2008 and a crap insurance Co who refused to pay out without us taking them to court, believe me I feel satisfied my small monthly price gives me peace of mind and allows me to stop worrying it might ever happen again. I equate it to less than 2 meals out per month. If we were drinkers, probably just a couple of nights out? 

Regards 

Pauline. 

I know exactly what you said and I would say you are 100% wrong here on the urbanization in Fortuna at least half of the ex securitas alarm customers have reverted to a non monitored alarm which makes an awful lot of noise outside not inside the house as securitas alarms do  

paulsav

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:47pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:47pm

smileygeorgey wrote on Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:01pm:

I know exactly what you said and I would say you are 100% wrong here on the urbanization in Fortuna at least half of the ex securitas alarm customers have reverted to a non monitored alarm which makes an awful lot of noise outside not inside the house as securitas alarms do  

I, m sorry to hear of your loss and as said earlier I can totally empathise with your anger over not being paid out as I too experienced that. I don't live on an urbanisation nor do any of my friends, all being several kms from each nearest neighbour, so a loud sounder would be hardly picked up by anyone nearby and I, m sure you have the correct type of alarm for your location. You have described a situation of dead battery happening in any alarm and I always check, listening for the beeps from outside it has set correctly. Have to admit I prefer the old method whereby you set and unset by code instead of fob but you can't change technology. I spent a year trying to find another alarm company and they were extremely thin on the ground and none in my area could offer me monitoring or my ability to check my own system via website when back in UK. I wasn't looking for an alternative to Securitas but an added security(Our trauma of total ransacking did make me super anxious afterwards and still affects me everytime we leave for home).We can only speak on our own experiences and mine has been positive with Securitas but then it's the same as all insurances, they are only as good as their service when you make a claim. Too late then if you,ve chosen a bad one. 

Regards 

Pauline 

smileygeorgey

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:54pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:54pm

paulsav wrote on Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:47pm:

I, m sorry to hear of your loss and as said earlier I can totally empathise with your anger over not being paid out as I too experienced that. I don't live on an urbanisation nor do any of my friends, all being several kms from each nearest neighbour, so a loud sounder would be hardly picked up b...

...y anyone nearby and I, m sure you have the correct type of alarm for your location. You have described a situation of dead battery happening in any alarm and I always check, listening for the beeps from outside it has set correctly. Have to admit I prefer the old method whereby you set and unset by code instead of fob but you can't change technology. I spent a year trying to find another alarm company and they were extremely thin on the ground and none in my area could offer me monitoring or my ability to check my own system via website when back in UK. I wasn't looking for an alternative to Securitas but an added security(Our trauma of total ransacking did make me super anxious afterwards and still affects me everytime we leave for home).We can only speak on our own experiences and mine has been positive with Securitas but then it's the same as all insurances, they are only as good as their service when you make a claim. Too late then if you,ve chosen a bad one. 

Regards 

Pauline 

Agree and understand but as for listening to the beep outside. Where I used to live had heavy shutters which drowned out the buzzers. I now do not use a fob I activate and deactivate using my code.

Glad you are happy with what you have

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