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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:55pm
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Has anyone had the unfortunate experience from the Spanish police been given a fine for no genuine reason.

Today myself & husband were passengers in my sister-in-law car on approaching the round about in Alcarcares just beside the arches there were police pulling cars over they asked my sister in law to pull over. We did so and one of the arrogant police officers were stating my husband who was a rear passenger did not have his seat belt on which 100% did.We tried to reason with them and say this was not the case but they still issued us with €200 fine.One officer said if we proved our NIE we wouldnt get fine but then back tracked and said after I provided NIE fine still but dont have to pay today.To me these are corrupt  officers has anyone had a similar experience and if so how do you appeal.

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:28pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:28pm

If it was the local police then you complain at the Town Hall. You need to take someone who speaks good Spanish. The town hall will pass the complaint onto the police commissioner who will look into it. 

Bear in mind most fines are reduced to 50% if paid within 20 days so you need to check the paperwork and see what it says. 

Police are not allowed to issue on the spot fines to be paid immediately  or ask for cash, if they try this then say you will go to the police station with them to pay it there. This used to be quite a common scam amongst some police officers, taking cash fines off tourists for no good reason.

Your sister in law could contact her car insurance and see if their legal dept can help, depending who the insurer is she may be covered for dealing with traffic fines and at the very least they could offer advice. It's worth a phone call I think. 

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:12pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:12pm

Jan1961 wrote on Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:55pm:

Has anyone had the unfortunate experience from the Spanish police been given a fine for no genuine reason.

Today myself & husband were passengers in my sister-in-law car on approaching the round about in Alcarcares just beside the arches there were police pulling cars over they asked my sister in law to pull over. We did so and one of the arrogant police officers were stating my husband who was a ...

 

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...rear passenger did not have his seat belt on which 100% did.We tried to reason with them and say this was not the case but they still issued us with €200 fine.One officer said if we proved our NIE we wouldnt get fine but then back tracked and said after I provided NIE fine still but dont have to pay today.To me these are corrupt  officers has anyone had a similar experience and if so how do you appeal.

Contact the Citizens Advice Bureau Spain's website and Facebook group. They have lawyers on hand who can assist in this type of problem.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.es/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/171561296334693

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:45pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:45pm

Mags44 wrote on Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:12pm:

Contact the Citizens Advice Bureau Spain's website and Facebook group. They have lawyers on hand who can assist in this type of problem.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.es/

 

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I have contacted the Citizens Advice Bureau three times and they have never responded to me, so my advice is don't bother. You should have taken the police officers details and reported him to the council office and the police station. 

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:35am

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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:35am

Dax wrote on Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:28pm:

If it was the local police then you complain at the Town Hall. You need to take someone who speaks good Spanish. The town hall will pass the complaint onto the police commissioner who will look into it. 

Bear in mind most fines are reduced to 50% if paid within 20 days so you need to check the paperwork and see what it says. ...

 

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Police are not allowed to issue on the spot fines to be paid immediately  or ask for cash, if they try this then say you will go to the police station with them to pay it there. This used to be quite a common scam amongst some police officers, taking cash fines off tourists for no good reason.

Your sister in law could contact her car insurance and see if their legal dept can help, depending who the insurer is she may be covered for dealing with traffic fines and at the very least they could offer advice. It's worth a phone call I think. 

Hi thanks for your reply I am due to fly home Saturday its Babk holiday today I may try the town hall in Sucina tomorrow.I am Seething come to our holiday apartment couple times a year and get €200 fine for nothing due to corrupt police.That with Brexit seriously made my mind up to sell up I'l spend my money else where other than Spain.

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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:36am

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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:36am

Mags44 wrote on Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:12pm:

Contact the Citizens Advice Bureau Spain's website and Facebook group. They have lawyers on hand who can assist in this type of problem.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.es/

 

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Thanks for replying may gave this a go but previous post they dont seem very helpful.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:42am

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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:42am

Dax wrote on Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:28pm:

If it was the local police then you complain at the Town Hall. You need to take someone who speaks good Spanish. The town hall will pass the complaint onto the police commissioner who will look into it. 

Bear in mind most fines are reduced to 50% if paid within 20 days so you need to check the paperwork and see what it says. ...

 

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Police are not allowed to issue on the spot fines to be paid immediately  or ask for cash, if they try this then say you will go to the police station with them to pay it there. This used to be quite a common scam amongst some police officers, taking cash fines off tourists for no good reason.

Your sister in law could contact her car insurance and see if their legal dept can help, depending who the insurer is she may be covered for dealing with traffic fines and at the very least they could offer advice. It's worth a phone call I think. 

Hi thanks for your reply I bet if my Sister-in-law car hadnt just past its test they would have tried there best to fine her because one of the corrupt officers was trying his best to pick fault with her car.And given arrogant threats if we dont pay fine they'l seize her vehicle.Well that's definitely made our decision to Sell up we could go out today be stopped and police just issue fines for sake of it.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:46am

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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:46am

jad wrote on Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:45pm:

I have contacted the Citizens Advice Bureau three times and they have never responded to me, so my advice is don't bother. You should have taken the police officers details and reported him to the council office and the police station. 

The police officers details should be on the fine, also details of how to appeal if you dissagree with the fine

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:49am

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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:49am

Jan1961 wrote on Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:42am:

Hi thanks for your reply I bet if my Sister-in-law car hadnt just past its test they would have tried there best to fine her because one of the corrupt officers was trying his best to pick fault with her car.And given arrogant threats if we dont pay fine they'l seize her vehicle.Well that's defin...

 

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...itely made our decision to Sell up we could go out today be stopped and police just issue fines for sake of it.

Obviously you speak perfect Spanish as you say the officer was making arrogant threats, and saying they are corrupt, in my 25 years plus years in Spain I have never had a problem with the police always found them courteous and helpful.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:14pm

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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:14pm

eduardo3332 wrote on Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:49am:

Obviously you speak perfect Spanish as you say the officer was making arrogant threats, and saying they are corrupt, in my 25 years plus years in Spain I have never had a problem with the police always found them courteous and helpful.

You have been lucky - sadly over the years there have been many reports of similar happenings. 

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