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Lydia1953

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:13pm

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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:13pm

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Any work that increases the habitable surface of the house requires a permit, that's what I read somewhere.

Just covering the terrace does not, putting windows and doors does.

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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:03pm

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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:03pm

rma44 wrote on Wed May 13, 2020 4:05pm:

My advice is to see all the paperwork with your own eyes, if you get fobbed off walk away, there are loads of other properties on the market. Agents will tell you anything and from experience you can't believe all solicitors.

Fully agree, ask to see all paperwork, and if its in Spanish, get it translated before you put down a deposit. 

This is true,( A buyer was shown paperwork for a underbuild, bedroom, kitchen, shower, dining room, it was in Spanish, and they did not get it translated, they placed a large deposit ( deposits are non returnable ) and then decided to have the paper work translated.)

When it was translated, it was a document for a shop premises that did not exist some where in Mazarron, all cleverly done by a builder who claimed it was the building permission for the underbuild.

Deposit lost, as they had to pull out, it happens, so watch out.

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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:05pm

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Paul01 wrote on Wed May 13, 2020 5:58pm:

Thanks for the info.  I was looking into a place where the front veranda has been converted and covered over with a roof and the arches fitted with windows.  The front walls had also been built higher.  Do you think these both need planning consent etc?

Yes, and increased walls need neighbours consent also.

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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:12pm

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rma44 wrote on Wed May 13, 2020 11:17am:

Very wise. So many Brits think it's OK to flout the law and carry on regardless and I've known several who openly brag about it. I would also advise keeping an eye on your neighbour as well. Converting underbuild and basements are favourites as the owners think the work will be undetectable. Seve...

...ral year's ago on the urbanisation where I had a property, someone returned to their holiday home ( terrace town house), only to discover the adjoining neighbour had opened up the underbuild for additional accommodation and actually gone underneath their property!!

Many MASA built properties in the Costa Blanca have had their basements converted into bedrooms quite illegally with no method of escape!

Getting planning permission is costly and a gamble as it might not be granted, but it's the same in the UK where costs have risen considerably. Why would anyone think it's different in Spain?

Fully agree, this was the advice given to us by our solicitor, build nothing without proper permission, ignorance will not stand up in court.

Go ahead at your peril, be prepared to be heavily fined by the council when it is discovered, and it will be, and in addition be prepared to have a order placed on you to have it demolished.

As per the UK, it has got to be according to the law, you  must have all documentation in place, and run it by the solicitor first it will pay dividends. 

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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:21pm

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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:21pm

Lydia1953 wrote on Wed May 13, 2020 2:47pm:

I asked a  builder, an architect and a sollicitor and they all said the fine has to be payed at the moment you sell the house or by your heirs.

Not sure about that, if it is discovered rules have been broken by the owner, whilst still living there, the fines will be placed at once.

Selling the property may be impossible if documentation is not in place, and pre registered, and on the deeds, and at time of sale this will also bring building work with no permission to light, and big fines, and possible demoliton, and of course, unable to sell. 

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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:24pm

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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:24pm

gray4850 wrote on Wed May 13, 2020 2:26pm:

No , the solicitor will pick up any problems 

We purchased on camposol in January and when we went to see the solicitor with our details he told us within minutes that the pool had no license . Then it’s down to the seller to sort it out

Seller is responsible for everything to do with the sale, the property, and its documentation in place.

Solicitors, estate agents, builders all have a get out clause, and its know as  ( ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH US )

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