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jaz007

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:08pm

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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:08pm

FEM90, if you read your deeds, if your property is situated on a private road, yes unfortunately you will have to pay your proprotion of rates, as far as I understand it is on size of property, pay a quarterly charge.

If you google Community of Owners for Spain, you will have a better understanding. Regrettably the builders have gone into liquidation, the company MASA as I understand should have set up the Poligono's ( they would have gained in setting up the Poligonos) and buyers should have been made aware.

I have empathy for the owners, that have been on Camposol from the start,  not paid any monies towards the Community of Owners, now they are being asked too, then again so is everyone else in the same situation.

Other urbanisations that have been set up throughout Spain, no doubt have a Community of Owners, but can't vouch for that, as I've bought and will enjoy the great community of Camposol, look forward to a Community of Owners being set up on the sector I've bought on.

rma44

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:05pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:05pm

sallypiemaker wrote on Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:52pm:

I really do not know why estate agents or lawyers  don't know this and inform buyers  then we would not be having these conversations  

They do know! They want to sell you a property and tell you everything will be alright........and people are still buying them. The Camposol history is well known, why didn't you do your home work before you bought the property, it's very well documented. Before anyone tells me I don't live on Camposol and therefore don't know anything about it, I'll tell you I bought a Masa property off plan in the Costa Blanca direct from Masa many years ago and it was an absolute nightmare dealing with them when they were in business.

I have followed the problems with Camposol from when they first started building there and I remember a specific forum then full of tales of woe. I don't envy the hassle you will have trying to sort this mess out, and even if you do get an administrator for your community, there's no guarantee they will work in your favour. The first one we had on the Costa Blanca were crooked and changing to another company requires 100% vote for it.

rma44

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:10pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:10pm

jaz007 wrote on Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:08pm:

FEM90, if you read your deeds, if your property is situated on a private road, yes unfortunately you will have to pay your proprotion of rates, as far as I understand it is on size of property, pay a quarterly charge.

If you google Community of Owners for Spain, you will have a better understanding. Regrettably the builders have gone into liquidation, the company MASA as I understand should have set up the Poligono's ( they would have gained in setting up the Poligonos) and buyers should have been made aware....

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I have empathy for the owners, that have been on Camposol from the start,  not paid any monies towards the Community of Owners, now they are being asked too, then again so is everyone else in the same situation.

Other urbanisations that have been set up throughout Spain, no doubt have a Community of Owners, but can't vouch for that, as I've bought and will enjoy the great community of Camposol, look forward to a Community of Owners being set up on the sector I've bought on.

You should be issued with a co-efficient for the size of property, from memory this relates to the size of the plot. Admin fees are then set against that. Masa got several wrong (they couldn't have cared less) including mine and it was impossible to get it changed even though everyone knew they were wrong....I paid 6 times the amount of the cheapest ones!

Snowkatt57

Posted: Sun Dec 1, 2019 9:09am

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Posted: Sun Dec 1, 2019 9:09am

Sallypiemaker, and why do you think that was eh ? No estate agent on that dump would tell you the truth, they want to sell the houses !!!!!! 

No resident will tell you as they want the place full so if they have to pay the bills then the individual cost is reduced.

You should have asked yourself A/ Why are the properties sort cheap, B/ Why don't most estate agents off the urbanisation not sell on there ?

Also, over here, IF you don't ask the question they are not bound by law to tell you !!!!!!

sallypiemaker

Posted: Sun Dec 1, 2019 10:07am

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Posted: Sun Dec 1, 2019 10:07am

I take it your not a fan

I have a beautiful villa and love the place

Just feel for pensioners who may not be able to afford extra expence 

The majority of people on here are lovely kind and helpful I love it

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Fem90

Posted: Sun Dec 1, 2019 11:30am

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Posted: Sun Dec 1, 2019 11:30am

Jaz007.  We are one of the lucky ones.  Our solicitors were very thorough.  They crossed the "T" and dot the "i" and let us know where we were.  So we are ok.  I just feel sorry for those who are in this dire situation.  Nothing is for free, and one will pay sooner or later.

As already been mentioned, this forum is for us to learn and address the shortcomings and find solutions to the problems.

Christine 75

Posted: Sun Dec 1, 2019 7:48pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 1, 2019 7:48pm

There can be no disputing the reality of Entity/Community of Owners in Camposol.  We all agreed to it by buying properties here, and accepting our Escrituras, and with it the responsibilities . The name of the place should should give you a clue - Urbanization Camposol   This is what happens in Urbanizations. I think the only protest we can legally make is about the timing of the implementation by the Council - .Why now, after so long leaving it unfinished? This is dejavu for some of us. We have been here before. 15 years ago we marched to the Town Hall to protest when it was imminent. The result of this was. it was put off until Camposol was deemed to be finished. What's changed ?  The Council have had millions through their hands to finish the job. There were bank guarrantees/insurances claimed when Masa went bust, but somehow the money disappeared before it was used. We need the place finished to an acceptable standard before we take up our responsibilities ongoing, and I think it should be Mazarron Council who pay for this.

CFC1905

Posted: Mon Dec 2, 2019 10:04am

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Posted: Mon Dec 2, 2019 10:04am

Seems to me that we cannot sit and complain and not expect to have to pay something for improvements. No one does anything for free

I understand the argument that maybe Camposol has been ignored deliberately over the years but the reality is the here and now with I am guessing far more people, like myself, being "recent" purchasers and accepting the current situation 

If we want maintained roads, better lighting etc. then it seems normal to me that these would have to be paid for as never previously provided

Just a thought....?

Fem90

Posted: Mon Dec 2, 2019 11:06am

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Posted: Mon Dec 2, 2019 11:06am

We are recent purchaser as well. I totally agree with your statements, Christine75, CFC1905, if we need any improvement in our environment, we should at least be prepared to pay something towards our comfort.

Afterall, individuals and government do budget every year, and they cannot spend more than the income received from the residents, unless if the budget is coming from the central government. That would make a difference.

As the days, weeks and months go by, there would be some outstanding issues such as street lights and roads maintenance, garbage collection, amongst other things. It's our duties and responsibilities of the residents to pinpoint the areas that need repairing to the local authority.  

Masa has left with bitterness in the hearts of those affected, but we must move on. If we can fight the battle, then ride on but don't let us continue to cry over the spilt milk.

So let's think, consolidate our plans, and action it.

Flo58

Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 10:06pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 9, 2019 10:06pm

Does anyone know which firm of Lawyers are going to be employed to represent Camposol owners?

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