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PHILG

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:38am

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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:38am

Thank you for your comments and understanding. Yes Camposol suffers from fatigue as the issues have been there for almost 20 years.  There have been small gains but in general the residents have been left to fend for themselves. Part of the problem other than corruption/fraud is that all the institutions keep passing the buck and that includes wanting the residents to finance fixing all the problems. The population dynamic on Camposol is that there are more retired residents than working people and hence a lack of enthusiasm to fix things financially. There are lots of charities operating on Camposol and volunteer organisations dealing with issues and helping the community. The biggest concern at the moment is the rambla which has 500 homes built in the rambla basin. It needs fixing so there will not be a repeat of the Gota Fria flooding that occurred in 2014.

For more information go to www.camposolresidents.es .

Christine 78

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:35pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:35pm

The low turn-out to the CRA meeting I think was due to the general apathy people feel regarding finding any fair and lasting solutions to any of the undoubted problems Camposol has. We have only been trying to negotiate with the ever changing factions that make up the Mazarron Council for the past 20 years, and I, for one, am weary of it all. There is no respect given to the residents legitimate complaints, and no interest in improving things for them in any way, -  and will not be for the forseeable future -  on past records.  I myself am now considering leaving for elsewhere after being here for 20 years. I am unable to drive now, and dependent on the bus service ( I don't know what else to call it) but it isn't what we would really call it. - Very few actual buses running through Camposol, and up to 40 mins. late all the time. I am in a dilemma regarding this because although my house is in good order I can't get a decent price for it , so I am looking at renting my own out, and paying rent myself somewhere. What is the solution to making Camposol a thriving place with good amenities for all ?

sdb137

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:15pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:15pm

Christine 78 wrote on Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:35pm:

The low turn-out to the CRA meeting I think was due to the general apathy people feel regarding finding any fair and lasting solutions to any of the undoubted problems Camposol has. We have only been trying to negotiate with the ever changing factions that make up the Mazarron Council for the pas...

...t 20 years, and I, for one, am weary of it all. There is no respect given to the residents legitimate complaints, and no interest in improving things for them in any way, -  and will not be for the forseeable future -  on past records.  I myself am now considering leaving for elsewhere after being here for 20 years. I am unable to drive now, and dependent on the bus service ( I don't know what else to call it) but it isn't what we would really call it. - Very few actual buses running through Camposol, and up to 40 mins. late all the time. I am in a dilemma regarding this because although my house is in good order I can't get a decent price for it , so I am looking at renting my own out, and paying rent myself somewhere. What is the solution to making Camposol a thriving place with good amenities for all ?

The solution is simple, as the legal team told us, and as they proved to us worked else where.

Raise hell, march on the town hall, residents to write to the council, who have to answer you, show the Mayor we all mean what we say.

The legal team told us the Mayor and council do not like a show of force, it worries them, and gives them a bad name, in particular as the election is getting close.

Lay back and take it, and the council will do nothing.

Yes its strong action, but as the legal team stated, it gets results.

Sad to hear you are leaving, but it seems you have given up, so moving may be best. 

sdb137

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:17pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:17pm

PHILG wrote on Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:38am:

Thank you for your comments and understanding. Yes Camposol suffers from fatigue as the issues have been there for almost 20 years.  There have been small gains but in general the residents have been left to fend for themselves. Part of the problem other than corruption/fraud is that all the...

... institutions keep passing the buck and that includes wanting the residents to finance fixing all the problems. The population dynamic on Camposol is that there are more retired residents than working people and hence a lack of enthusiasm to fix things financially. There are lots of charities operating on Camposol and volunteer organisations dealing with issues and helping the community. The biggest concern at the moment is the rambla which has 500 homes built in the rambla basin. It needs fixing so there will not be a repeat of the Gota Fria flooding that occurred in 2014.

For more information go to www.camposolresidents.es .

We will only get what we fight for, and as the legal team stated, you have to put up a show to worry the council, and the Mayor, create publicity in our favour, it works, but it takes all to do so.

sdb137

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:20pm

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Lynnb wrote on Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:09pm:

Too true.  But too many keep their heads down and are blinkered to what's going on. We spoke to neighbours opposite and told them about the meeting. They said they were only holiday makers and maybe not staying on camposol much longer so don't want to get involved. Other full time neighbours...

... don't want to know either. It will be hard to try and drum up support as there is so much negativity on camposol. 

Yes very sad, but if they get flooded, or they are one of the homes built on government land, they will need help, then its to late to moan.

Very sad attitude, its not my problem, but it may be sooner than they think.

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Lynnb

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:37pm

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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:37pm

sdb137 wrote on Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:20pm:

Yes very sad, but if they get flooded, or they are one of the homes built on government land, they will need help, then its to late to moan.

Very sad attitude, its not my problem, but it may be sooner than they think.

Apparently our house on D8 got part of the flood water running down years ago. It was our neighbour at the back of us whose empty plastic pool got lifted out and floated down the street knocking walls down. No one tells you all this though when you're buying. It's only when you start asking questions you find things out. So maybe our house is one of them that's built on government land as well. 

sdb137

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:38pm

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Lynnb wrote on Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:37pm:

Apparently our house on D8 got part of the flood water running down years ago. It was our neighbour at the back of us whose empty plastic pool got lifted out and floated down the street knocking walls down. No one tells you all this though when you're buying. It's only when you start asking quest...

...ions you find things out. So maybe our house is one of them that's built on government land as well. 

Best get onto the solicitor you delt with on the purchase.

However, you will have no chance of getting them to sort it, own up, or help in any way.

I bet they state ( Its your ignorance that is no claim in law ) its their get out clause.

gloria007

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:04am

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:04am

sdb137 wrote on Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:10pm:

Well what a sad turn out for this meeting that concerns all Camposol residents, about 20 people only, for such a important update on the future of Camposol.

Information on the fight to re route the  Rambla, information on the 400 homes built wrongly on government land on sector D, the fixing of the roads, and the lighting required, ( the electric company found cutting the wires, and removing the fuses )  then a report blaming the residents ...

...for this.

Just 20 residents interested, as the legal team stated who were present on the meeting, you will get nothing if you do not put up a fight, and every one ( 4000 residents on Camposol ) start to show support.

When the council hear that only 20 turned up, they will laugh, and not worry about the roads, lights, or the 2.9 million being held by them for Camposol. 

A election due next year, 20 residents will not swing anything for Camposol representation on the council.

You reap what you sow, and in this case its nothing, well Camposol, do not bother moaning, or complaining about any thing on Camposol, you let yourselves down, and everyone around you.

The council will just ignore you, and you have saved them millions which they will invest else where which they are itching to do.

How sad,  same old thing, not my problem, let some one else deal with it, well, it will hit hard shortly when all goes down hill fast.

Whoa...just a minute!

My husband and l are both members of the CRA...neither one of us was even aware there was to be a meeting, let alone where said meeting was being held ?

We (or at least one of us)would more than likely been in attendance had we known anout it.

My email is still the same as l registered with, but we weren't made aware of a meeting? So in light/view of this how could l/we or both hope to attend said meeting??

Lynnb

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:20am

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gloria007 wrote on Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:04am:

Whoa...just a minute!

My husband and l are both members of the CRA...neither one of us was even aware there was to be a meeting, let alone where said meeting was being held ?

We (or at least one of us)would more than likely been in attendance had we known anout it.

My email is still the same as l registered with, but we weren't made aware of a meeting? So in light/view of this how could l/we or both hope to attend said meeting??

I don't know how you didn't get a mail Gloria. But we did and then consequent follow up mail asking us if we were attending etc and if we had any questions to ask. Which of course my husband got up to ask them. We were happy that we attended as it shed a lot of light into how things are going on in camposol and how the CRA are trying to help camposol as a whole. Maybe mail the secretary gordan to check he has your correct details or check your junk mail? 

gloria007

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:36am

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:36am

Lynnb wrote on Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:20am:

I don't know how you didn't get a mail Gloria. But we did and then consequent follow up mail asking us if we were attending etc and if we had any questions to ask. Which of course my husband got up to ask them. We were happy that we attended as it shed a lot of light into how things are going on ...

...in camposol and how the CRA are trying to help camposol as a whole. Maybe mail the secretary gordan to check he has your correct details or check your junk mail? 

I/we haven't received any notifications from CRA since 2021...nothing in junk (l dont need a reminder to check it)

I have  contacted them on the matter.

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