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Worth installing solar panels ?

Posted: Mon Jul 5, 2021 10:19pm
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Christine 75

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Due to the recent obtuse increase in electricity charges by the Spanish Government,I was wondering if it would be a good idea to have solar panels installed. I am a big user of Iberdrola electricity at my home as I am effectively running two households. I deploy timers on all appliances I can, and use off-peak when I can, but my bills are horrendous

Has anyone any information as to if there are any council grants available for installing at this time? 

Has anyone recently installed solar panels on a flat roof ?

Can anyone reccommend any installer who will visit at home and actually be helpful instead of expecting you to do all the running and providing of information they require ?

Your input would be appreciated fellow Camposolers.

Roland

Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 9:45am

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Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 9:45am

The 'obtuse' increase in electricity prices is not the fault of the Spanish government.

Worldwide energy prices have increased massively in the last 6 months or so.

Council grants in Spain ??

No chance.

There are installers that will come to your property & give you a quote just get on Google & search for them.

Use the search box at the top of this page & search 'Solar Power' there is some information & recommendations on there.

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Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:41pm

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Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:41pm

Roland wrote on Tue Jul 6, 2021 9:45am:

The 'obtuse' increase in electricity prices is not the fault of the Spanish government.

Worldwide energy prices have increased massively in the last 6 months or so.

Council grants in Spain ??

No chance.

There are installers that will come to your property & give you a quote just get on Google & search for them.

Use the search box at the top of this page & search 'Solar Power' there is some information & recommendations on there.

It's not the council who give out the grants for the various types of home improvements - it's the government! I got a government grant for the installation of solar panels for domestic hot water a few years ago and although there were a lot of hoops to jump through and the grant only covered a percentage of the cost of the actual panels and tank and not the installation nor taxes, etc., it was worth the hassle.

It seems that there were grants available for solar panels in Murcia this year but the application dates were from 17th March to the 19th April 2021.

https://icide.es/subvenciones-placas-solares-murcia-2021/

It might be worth contacting a local installer for costs and information as to whether there will be grants available for 2022 and how much these are likely to be.

RichT

Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:57pm

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Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:57pm

You may, however, also have noticed that the Spanish Government has reduced VAT (IVA) on electricity from 21% to 10% until the end of this year.

We are in the process of having solar panels installed (via Iberdrola) and, from our experience, I hope this helps:

There are very few grants available in Spain and the 'feed in tariff' that you receive for any spare electricity exported to the grid is very low. In general, about half of your electricity bill is the standing charge, so there is only the opportunity to reduce half the bill (the consumption element) by using the electricity that your panels generate. The new division of time periods helps, however, as the cheapest rate is 00.00 - 08.00, which is when you wouldn't be generating - so, when you are generating you're reducing your consumption from the grid at the most expensive rates. 

We are having 5 panels delivering a combined 1.65Kw installed at a cost of around €4,000 and have calculated that the 'payback period' for our investment would be approx. 6.5 years.

As per other posts, most installers will have a no obligation visit and they should calculate the best option for you, based on your consumption pattern, available roof space and cost - versus forecast savings.

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Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 5:11pm

RichT wrote on Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:57pm:

You may, however, also have noticed that the Spanish Government has reduced VAT (IVA) on electricity from 21% to 10% until the end of this year.

We are in the process of having solar panels installed (via Iberdrola) and, from our experience, I hope this helps:

There are very few grants available in Spain and the 'feed in tariff' that you receive for any spare electricity exported to the grid is very low. In general, about half of your electricity bill is the standing charge, so there is only the opportunity to reduce half the bill (the consumption element) by using the electricity that your panels generate. The new division of time periods helps, however, as the cheapest rate is 00.00 - 08.00, which is when you wouldn't be generating - so, when you are generating you're reducing your consumption from the grid at the most expensive rates. 

We are having 5 panels delivering a combined 1.65Kw installed at a cost of around €4,000 and have calculated that the 'payback period' for our investment would be approx. 6.5 years.

As per other posts, most installers will have a no obligation visit and they should calculate the best option for you, based on your consumption pattern, available roof space and cost - versus forecast savings.

Does that include the batteries ? I don't know about todays batteries but in the past the Lead acid batteries needed replacing after a max of 10 years. at a cost of 1000-1500 € for 6. and the system you are getting for only 4000 € how many kilowatts max will you get ?

RichT

Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 5:33pm

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Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 5:33pm

Baggywrinkles wrote on Tue Jul 6, 2021 5:11pm:

Does that include the batteries ? I don't know about todays batteries but in the past the Lead acid batteries needed replacing after a max of 10 years. at a cost of 1000-1500 € for 6. and the system you are getting for only 4000 € how many kilowatts max will you get ?

This does not include batteries - this is for generation only, not storage. 

As stated above, our maximum Kw output will be 1.65kW.

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Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2021 4:29pm

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Thanks, RichT and Mags44 for your info. - I knew there was some help with installation costs from the Government; but how to access this was a mystery.  I have trawled the internet for info previously Roland, and have yet to come across a company who will mention grants available at all, and seem to want you to do all the running  i.e. e.mail me this, and e.mail that info before I put myself out to give you any info. One company gave me a preliminary estimate of 5-6000 €, and when the true quotation was given it was 12.500 €. No info at all about any possible roof survey (I have a flat one), and no mention of finance available at all. Previous to the Government arbitrarily changing the off-peak usage hours, I had a perfectly good arrangement I thought with Iberdrola for off-peak charging with my own choice of hours. Now I find I have no choice of hours, and it will mean my bills will increase 50%. So Roland, I blame the Spanish Government entirely for that !

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Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 2:00pm

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Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 2:00pm

Christine 75 wrote on Wed Jul 7, 2021 4:29pm:

Thanks, RichT and Mags44 for your info. - I knew there was some help with installation costs from the Government; but how to access this was a mystery.  I have trawled the internet for info previously Roland, and have yet to come across a company who will mention grants available at all, and...

... seem to want you to do all the running  i.e. e.mail me this, and e.mail that info before I put myself out to give you any info. One company gave me a preliminary estimate of 5-6000 €, and when the true quotation was given it was 12.500 €. No info at all about any possible roof survey (I have a flat one), and no mention of finance available at all. Previous to the Government arbitrarily changing the off-peak usage hours, I had a perfectly good arrangement I thought with Iberdrola for off-peak charging with my own choice of hours. Now I find I have no choice of hours, and it will mean my bills will increase 50%. So Roland, I blame the Spanish Government entirely for that !

Quite a few years ago, the government offered grants and a reasonably generous feed in tariff, but they then realised this was costing them a lot of money, so these were withdrawn. I then believe that, for a period, people were actually charged for exporting to the grid, but that has now stopped.

Why not get a quote from Iberdrola? They also offer a finance deal.

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