Maintenance of roads not done by the aurthority

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Camposol was built under the Horizontal Property Law of Spain. One of the provisions of this law is the creation of communities of owners (COO’s), who share the maintenance costs of the private areas. Each Sector or poligono (for example D7, C16 etc) has a COO. The vast majority of COO’s have not been activated, because the developers of the urbanisation left over ten years ago and before the urbanisation was completed and were placed into liquidation. There has been an ongoing issue since then about who is responsible for completing the urbanisation and this is unlikely to end soon. In the meantime the current council has made clear that it cannot carry out maintenance of private roads. 

Thank you for the information on COOs. Are these COOs functioning and what happens when some owners sell up and move away. The utility servers like water, electricity and sewer still have to carry out maintenance, so who reinstates the roads that are dug up? I assume Sector D has a sewer system and houses do not have septic tanks. In Google View, on some roads manhole covers are visible and on some road there are no visible manhole covers. Is there any road drainage system? What happens when sudden heavy downpours flood the streets?

On another point where the houses are at a higher level from the road by some 1.5 meters or so, are there voids under ground floor slabs or are they solid slabs over voids that have been filled in? Because of very hot summer sun shine , is there any problem with roof slabs that are covered by ceramic tiles? Do they crack and eventually leak? I have experience such a problem in Cyprus and wondered if roofs are reasonably waterproofed in Camposol.

I would appreciate answers to these question pleaseif residents of Camposol have the answers.  Thank you all.

There are only a few COO’s that have been activated on C and D sectors and the houses in those sectors were constructed by a different builder. 

The contribution percentage (or cuota) is listed in the deeds of each property and this will depend on the number and size of houses/land in each poligono. This would pass to a new owner, although as most are not activated, it is academic. Typically, COO costs would include insurances for public liability etc, maintenance of private areas, such as communal swimming pools (although there are only a handful and these are poligono’s where there is an active COO) and anything else the residents vote for. Despite what many say, the local authority has no control or say over COO’s. They are the sole responsibility of the property owners. Most have chosen not to activate them as they consider that the council is firstly responsible for “completing the urbanisation” I have asked, but there does not appear to be a schedule of works that need to be completed to satisfy that criteria. This dispute has already been going on for over ten years. In the meantime, the only maintenance is conducted by the various sector volunteer gardening groups that try to keep the place looking nice. The local council has recently undertaken some substantial maintenance works on the verges to the main public roads. 
They have also allocated €880,000 for the resurfacing of the dual carriageway on C and D sectors, however this and 24 other projects has been halted because the opposition PP party has instituted legal proceedings against the council.

The council also has €2.9 million from a court case against the liquidator of the main developer. The court stipulated that this money must be used towards the completion of the urbanisation and not for maintenance. The vice chair of the residents association recently estimated that the costs of completion are in the region of €50 million, so this, although welcome, will not go far. We are waiting to hear from the council how they plan to spend the money. Solar lighting on public roads could be a good bet.

As far as sewage, public roads and water are concerned, these are maintained by the council and Aqualia, the local water company. As yet we don’t know what would happen if there was a sewage pipe and resulting road collapse on a private road. The council has advised residents to take out insurance to cover any costs for repairs to private roads. 

As for “voids” under properties, these are often referred to as underbuilds and yes they exist for the purpose of allowing water to pass underneath in the case of floods. They range in height from s very small crawl through to several meters high. Many people convert these spaces into additional living accommodation.

Roofs are tiled with proper roofing rather than ceramic tiles, however some houses also have a flat roof solarium area. If these are properly fitted, waterproofed and tiled they will be fully waterproof. Some people have had leaks through their flat roof, where it has not been fitted correctly but these are few and far between.

I have tried to cover the points you mention. The best thing to do would be to rent here for as long as possible to see if it is for you. The sectors have completely different dynamics, some with shops etc, some with none. The distance from the far end of A sector to the far end of D sector is about 8 kilometres, and if you needed to walk this on a hot summers day, it would be uncomfortable to say the least, so mobility is an important consideration. 

Apologies that this goes on a bit but you did ask😇😇

Thank you for the answers to all my questions. Information you provided would be very useful in making up my mind about possible purchase of a property in Camposol. Thank you and I truly appreciate your help..