Residentia - Page 2

Unfortunately we are currently in the perfect storm; Brexit, Covid and Procrastination (Brits leaving it until the last minute).

We got our residentia early last year.  Our solicitor got us our NIE a few years back, but I’m told he got it within days. Our padron took the longest at 10 days from start to finish. We got a cancellation appointment for the Residentia in Murcia, so from start to finish (booking to our acceptance - getting the green card) it only took 3 days.

I would recommend getting a good Gestor, we used one for all aspects. Yes it’s costs money but saves lots of headaches.

We are in the process of applying for out TIE. Our Gestor got an appointment in 5 days, if you try it’s months. It’s not what you you know, but who. This is how Spain 🇪🇸 works unfortunately.

You've hit the nail on the head there, Roberto!

You are required to apply for the appropriate Visa from the Spanish Consulate in the UK before travel and the paperwork is handled in the UK.

Residencia should then be applied for when arriving in Spain. The Visa will deal with many of the requirements including income and medical insurance etc. If you are not able to deal with the process yourself then instruct lawyers and get it dealt with properly! 

The new process to achieve residencia is to apply for a visa (in most cases, the non lucrative visa) at the appropriate Spanish consulate in the UK. You need to attend in person, with all the documentation mentioned in several other posts on this forum.

This should be approved within one month and then you have one month to collect in person from the consulate. You then have 3 months (from the date of the approval) in which to arrive in Spain; and then within one month of arrival, you need to attend the Foreigner's Office to collect your TIE.

The first Visa lasts for a year, after which you renew for 2 years and then again for a further 2 years, before finally being able to apply for permanent residency.

So, technically, you could get your TIE within about 6 weeks, if everything went to plan (although it rarely does) - but this is not full residency and also you can't do this solely from Spain, so the 90 day rule really doesn't apply...

It's a joke.For god sake people write to your MP write to the spanish authorities write to anyone that is able and willing to sort this crap system out.I thought it was totally overkill with my wife's application in the UK for citizenship 5 F years and nearly £10k later yes people it's all relevant to our translation services ?solicitors rubbing their greedy hands and the rest of the hangers on such as the English language test which consisted of paying alot of money to travel talk for 10 mins to someone who isn't English by origin?and going home.Star rating 0/10 jobs for the the privilege happy days enjoy.

I repeat, this is NOT a new process, the procedure for Non-Eu citizens, for example Canadians, Americans, Australians etc. wishing to obtain Spanish Residencia has not changed. The Eu-wide Schengen 90 day rule and income level barrier has been in place for at least a decade. It is not suddenly being imposed on the British. 

The British people chose to join that group.Not the Spanish.  So best direct anger back to the Brexiteers

All the process up to receipt of a Visa in your passport is done in your home country. then within a month of that you are supposed to come to Spain to start the TIE application. However I know the Spanish authorities recognise the Covid travel realities, so no one is going to be disallowed for an extra time delay in getting to Spain.

However they need to see an evidence trail that when you arrived you got straight into the process. So its sensible to use an experienced gestor to assist upon arrival in Spain.

Personally,  I found the Extranjeria office in Murcia, very helpful, even some years ago, they recognised the problems of appointment delays from an overwhelmed system. It took four months from my arrival to getting my all my TIE documentation, rather than the supposed three months,  there was no suggestion that I would be thrown out because of administrative delays. 

It's not anger?It's the process it's absolutely rubbish.That is for many countries that make the process so much harder for Joe blogs who is just trying to settle somewhere.They go on about waiting lists at these processing points but that is self inflicted due to the beaurocratic system.I say again all the solicitors translators photo booths internet shops Brazilian rain forests for wasted paper are an absolute waste and massively contribute to the eco system ie fuel trees electricity etc why when all this can be done in one place.It just bugs the SH out of me why this process goes on still in 2021.

Wow, that sounds just like how the UK process for those people who have been trying to get their settled status done and failing because of the bureaucracy, is! As Roberto says, this is not a new process. It's been around for yonks and didn't affect UK citizens whilst they were part of the club. They left, they now have to follow the procedures for third country citizens! Why are so many people on this forum so deep in denial. With the comments on threads being so negative, I wonder why any of the "ex-pat" posters even want to live in Spain!

Apologies Roberto - it's an existing process which Brits are now required to use, as a result of leaving the EU.

I agree with the principles of the process - ensure that people moving to live in your country are not criminals; are not going to be a drain on your national health service, having not 'paid into' it; and are able to support themselves financially. 

The two areas that I think could be improved are

a) the 90 day restriction for non-resident owners of holiday / second homes in Spain;

b) the fact that the required approx. €33,000 pa proof of funds for a couple is not balanced against outgoings - so a couple could have the €33k pa, but have a mortgage or rent of €1k per month and qualify; whereas a couple who have €25k pa, but own their property outright would not necessarily qualify, despite having more disposable income.

Really?  

What is not necessary in the initial Visa application and then the in Spain TIE application?

Pictures of the person?,

Health and police reports? 

Own country documentation?  

Financial records?  Assets/income

Habitation location in Spain, for TIE card? 

Note all these become computerised during the own country Visa application process and in the TIE application Spain, but individuals are not forced to have computer access/knowledge to apply.

Do you think computer access and literacy should be compulsory?

Do you know of Eu-Schengen countries which don't require this information?

What information do you think is essential and which part is un-necessary?

How would you manage the process?

Note the 90/180 day rule and financial sustainability applies in 26 Eu countries and can't be changed unless all in agreement.

Of course if GBR was in the Eu, it may have been able to pursuade the Eu to move from that, but its not is it?