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Jonny1956

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:47pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:47pm

eduardo3332 wrote on Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:52am:

Roland

Your comments have been very negative and unsupportive.

Why have you not answered the question put to you by Andyhawne?

 "What businesses have you had problems establishing in Spain"

I have opened and run a few businesses over the years I have lived in Spain, with no real problems, except taking the advise of a well known lawyer and forming a S.L. company costing me over 3000 euros. when I could have traded that particular one just by being autonimo.

Forming and starting any business can be a challenge no matter what country you live in, however, common sense, knowledge and fact finding about your market contributes to success.

I would say good luck to Andy, and as it his decision what he wishes to do, I wish him every success with his idea and potential business

Yes but at least he is honest...........

eduardo3332

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:27pm

eduardo3332

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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:27pm

Jonny1956 wrote on Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:47pm:

Yes but at least he is honest...........

I am honest and giving a view from experience, not what I just think

gloria007

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:33am

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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:33am

Toprod wrote on Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:23pm:

Hi Andy

There is a couple of clubs i know of think there based in Alicante if you look on el bosquet fishery might be of help. Me and my neighbour go to el bosquet weekly we live on Camposol so about 1hour 45min drive so the quicker your up and running the better 👍🤣😂

Hi..sorry to jump in on your post....my husband would be very interested in this, he isn't able to travel (like so many) to Alicante to fish... we're on Camposol so this would be fantastic for him. 

Andyhawne

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:25pm

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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:25pm

gloria007 wrote on Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:33am:

Hi..sorry to jump in on your post....my husband would be very interested in this, he isn't able to travel (like so many) to Alicante to fish... we're on Camposol so this would be fantastic for him. 

Hi, thanks very much. Hopefully within 2 years it should be a goer.  Had good response from various authorities so far so fingers crossed. Thanks for your positive response.

Andyhawne

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:30pm

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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:30pm

eduardo3332 wrote on Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:52am:

Roland

Your comments have been very negative and unsupportive.

Why have you not answered the question put to you by Andyhawne?

 "What businesses have you had problems establishing in Spain"

I have opened and run a few businesses over the years I have lived in Spain, with no real problems, except taking the advise of a well known lawyer and forming a S.L. company costing me over 3000 euros. when I could have traded that particular one just by being autonimo.

Forming and starting any business can be a challenge no matter what country you live in, however, common sense, knowledge and fact finding about your market contributes to success.

I would say good luck to Andy, and as it his decision what he wishes to do, I wish him every success with his idea and potential business

Thanks for your answers Eduardo. I am very much a "glass half full" type but do understand something a little out of the ordinary may be a little harder to achieve but so far things look quite rosy, let's hope it stays that way. Thanks very much for your response again, very positive, Andy.

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Andyhawne

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:31pm

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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:31pm

Tony1948 wrote on Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:28pm:

I would make use of a Coarse Fishing venue close to Camposol.

We moved out here 2.5 yrs ago & I haven't been fishing yet. :(

I have a lot of kit sitting in my property.

Good luck with your potential project.

Thanks Tony, hopefully, if all goes to plan should be up and running within two years.

Many thanks.

Andyhawne

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:37pm

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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:37pm

NickB wrote on Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:29am:

Hi Andy,

I’m in 2 clubs (Rod and Reels and Abbey Angling), both have websites, but there is a third, Carp R Us. The majority of the members live around Cabo Roig, Villa Martin and Playa Flemenca, quesada, La Marina, etc (the large ex pat enclaves)  though there are members who are in based the UK, ...

...Holland, etc who come over and fish the odd match.

R&R and AA have basically the same members in them and there is 2 different clubs as it’s allows them more access to federation waters, which matches have to be allocated by club, so 2 clubs allows them twice the amount of matches. There are also a number of Spanish clubs who fish these waters, the reason for the allocation.

The Spanish clubs don’t tend to fish El Bosquet as it isn’t suited to the Spanish rules. No ledgering, poles max length 13m, bait must be off the bottom, no pellets, to name just a few. Though Brit clubs don’t have to follow these rules.

I only joined at the beginning of 2020 when I moved out here, so it’s been an terrible year due to Covid.

As stated by others, the main fishery, and the only one still open, is El B it’s by Crevillente. It’s a classic man made, UK match commercial. There are currently 2 matches a week there as there is no where else allowing fishing locally due to Covid. Think it’s regularly match fished by CRU also, plus a few pleasure anglers. Most matches there attract around 20 anglers.

As far as I’m aware there are no other commercials anywhere around this part of Spain, if any in Spain at all, just a few natural venues, but they are few and far between.

I can’t go anymore as I live in Murcia region and we can’t cross the boarders. However, if Valencia also shut their internal boarders, which they are talking about, that will put paid to most of the anglers going also. Therefore, nowhere will be viable until next summer.

They did fish other venues, like on the River Segura in the centre of Murcia. Used to love fishing there! However, this and other venues are controlled by the Murcia Federation who have suspended all match fishing until further notice due to C19.

You need both Murcia and Valencia Licenses, as El B is Valencia and the river is Murcia. I think most of the other venues they fished are in Valencia, but never got to go to them due to C19.
These are obtainable from a tackle shop in Torrevieja. The lady who runs it will do all the paperwork and get you the licenses for a very small fee. Something like €30 all in for the year. If you’re a pensioner it’s a one off fee, but under pension age it’s renewed yearly. On top we have to have a Murcia Federation card, somewhere around €25. Someone from the club will again get you these for a small fee. Again renewable yearly.

I don’t remember having to give my NIE, but it was a year ago, so might have been needed. Plus the prices I’ve quoted might be a bit off. However, the Federation card gives you the insurance. Generally it’s all very easy as there is always someone who will help. I know that some of the clubs members even helped by building some of the pegs at El B.

I seem to be one of the few anglers based this far south, Los Alcazares, but we do get one or two who come up from Andalusia, they can only fish matches by Spanish rules, as there are no British clubs in that region.

Doesn’t seem to be much of a specimen following, but that might be due to the venues we fish. A few pleasure anglers, around 4 to 5 each time we fish at El B, but again that could be because if they fish when there’s a match on they have limited water availability.

The upshot is a number of the anglers are fed up with El B, as it’s a typical hole in the ground fishery and there currently is no alternative. There are a lot of the older anglers who love the place (nearly all the clubs members are retired) as there’s no walking and you can park behind your peg. However, another commercial alternative would be great, and I suspect, if the right type of venue would be very extensively used.

Maybe somewhere further North than Mazarrón would be better, as there doesn’t seem to be too many anglers living that far south, and also given its location is quite difficult to get to. Tolls, mountains, etc.

The Spanish guy and his son who own El B don’t have much idea about what anglers need, and never ask advice or take any notice if offered, so, again, someone who understood the UK angling scene would offer, a much needed, viable alternative that I’m sure would be extensively used.

If you want any further information please don’t hesitate to contact me.

Hi, thanks again for all your advice. Very, very helpful. Looks like with the new covid restrictions I may not get to Spain before March now. I'll get my vaccines as soon as I can and maybe this will help. When I come over might it be possible to meet up and pick your brains a little. I think joining the local clubs would be the obvious way to get into the local angling scene and give me a better view "from the inside" and it were.

Thanks again, and have a good christmas everyone.

rma44

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:30am

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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:30am

This is a great post. Although not an angler now, I used to do quite a bit in my youth. As others have said, Spanish bureaucracy is crazy and you might not survive unless you have expensive support. However, there are many large irrigation ponds in the area which probably would make great fisheries. Obviously you'd need a cooperative farmer, but I'm sure the chance of an extra revenue stream would be welcomed by many.........just a thought.

I seem to remember I have a house near the Port.....might bump into you if we ever get there again. Please keep us informed of your progress, and good luck.

Trevor Lucas

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:11pm

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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:11pm

Good luck with your plans, I have fished for purely carp since the fifties and although I still have all my equipment I rarely use it as size of fish in reservoirs within Murcia do not tempt me and travel to better areas rarely possible.

Andyhawne

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:49pm

Andyhawne

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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:49pm

rma44 wrote on Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:30am:

This is a great post. Although not an angler now, I used to do quite a bit in my youth. As others have said, Spanish bureaucracy is crazy and you might not survive unless you have expensive support. However, there are many large irrigation ponds in the area which probably would make great fisheri...

...es. Obviously you'd need a cooperative farmer, but I'm sure the chance of an extra revenue stream would be welcomed by many.........just a thought.

I seem to remember I have a house near the Port.....might bump into you if we ever get there again. Please keep us informed of your progress, and good luck.

Hi thanks very much for your reply, not a bad idea that, and should save a huge amount on my initial costings.

Again, thanks very much.

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