Camposol 2020 - Page 2

I think all opinions are valid but the good points of Camposol make it an area worth promoting with intelligence and rallying good will and possible further monies to make repair where needed and develop the place so people can be truly proud of it.

I thank all responses for taking this serious matter on and being brave enough to discuss it properly. 

Many thanks 

That could be said about all Urbanisations in the Costa's, and in that case Des, the only difference between where you live now and where you moved from is the odd pothole called Bill. I say that light heartedly, but in all seriousness, most of the houses snatched up in Ireland were by Brits, a lot of those who are now ready to sell up and move to Spain, courtesy of their Irish parentage passports.  

I would argue the strong advantages of the Spanish authorities looking after their Urbanisations,  including the likes of Camposol, they can't afford not to. 

True, Mazarron council have said certain roads are public, therefore should be maintained by them. The rest are private and should be maintained by the community of owners. The key word being maintained.  However it is still being debated as to how much responsibility the council owned for allowing some of the illegal works and not ensuring that the urbanisation was up to standard. The law has changed in Spain. Now the road structure etc has to be finished before the sale of any houses to the public. I, who live on D. Sued MASA for not fulfilling their contract and won. I now know more about the Spanish legal system than I ever wished to. Then the company went bust, or rather Justo Manoli, the subsidiary did. Investigations by the CRA found at least 56 companies in a very complex system owned by MASA the parent company. Money moving all over the place. The only people who could sort this out are the Murcia Transparency  group. Who were looking in to it. However..... Then the UK voted out of Europe. So we lost the protection of the EU. I do not think many people realise just what this means for living in Spain. But I am not going to return to the UK, nor am I going to give up the fight. I am no longer on the committee of the CRA, but support them, and our councillor  Silvana Buxton. 

Thankyou. I totally agree, that the law was not enforced in Spain to protect buyers. Although the fact that 2 previous mayors in Mazarron are now being prosecuted holds out hope. I also agree many people did not apply ' due diligence ' when buying. Buying off plan, or on an estate agents insurances, are not what we would do in the UK. ( no criticism here.  It was what my partner did) 

Our relationship  with the council is at present pretty good. The PP were voted out, and our new council   of which Silvana is one, is very sympathetic to Camposol, but states it has no money. The builders reserve which the council ( under the PP) held was spent. Not on Camposol. That is also something regional lawyers are looking into. Hence the prosecution of 2 previous mayors. So we are looking to region, so we have to wait. For those on Camposol who sold everything to move here, they are stuck. We have to continue the fight.

As to your feeling that newbies will not be coming. I do hope you are correct. There are so many people, asking about what sectors are best, and saying they are coming over and looking for work. They often ask on this forum. I have said many times, that life is going to be very different under schengen rules, but people do not want to know. So, I am in a dichotomy,  I like living here, so want to be supportive towards Camposol,  but also want to tell people getting a job is going to be incredibly hard  and life in Spain is going to be very expensive. I have noticed that people getting their TIE now are, unless they have had their green residencia for a few years being described as temporary . So not sure what that means for the future

Bear in mind it is not just the Brits buying houses in Spain

When an estate agent tells me that they would not buy on campersol there must be something wrong there.

Many thanks for your serious response I have a legal background and have now included all matters to our Spanish lawyers .

I have been very impressed by all posts on this matter and both my husband and I cannot thank you enough for opening our eyes wider to matters on Camposol. 

We love the villa a lot but we dont want to be victim purchasers.

If we pull out of the purchase it's more because of the effects of covid 19 and clear drop in market value than other things but cumulatively it will all reflect on a revised price we are willing to pay we will be happy to walk away if we have to we have a very comfortable life we dont want to buy in problems.

Thanks again

I agree with you but love the way it’s not over busy that’s why we choose it and lovely place to chill relax if people want busy go some where else 

You mentioned historical problems, when and where were they and are they still going on? We're hoping to get out there for viewings 

Stevonne. Have a look at past threads on the subject, under 'Camposol ' etc, it's all there and has been covered many times friend.    Every now and then, people come on and bash Camposol.    Historically, Los Alcazares or what ever its called suffers frequent flooding and muggings, (from what I've read doing my research), I could list problems for each location, as you say, 'get over and see for yourself' after a bit of research. Good luck.  (Stand by!!)