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LeginSenoj

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:24pm

LeginSenoj

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:24pm

Georgia wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:16pm:

After reading all posted messages concerning Camposol, and adding my own comments, I think Peter C has made a bold and interesting suggestion...Denouncing the council, ballsy,,, but it's the best way forward 

Sadly, the route to complain about the council is through the Ombudsman. This was done by the CRA and the result was the Ombudsman can only deal with maladministration within the previous 12 months. Most of the issues on Camposol have occurred over a 20+ years, so he was unable to intervene. Unless maladies is traction can be identified in the past year, the ombudsman will not intervene.

LeginSenoj

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:28pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:28pm

Michael 1979 wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:03pm:

Just for reference, in the UK black tarmac costs roughly £45-50 per sq. That's just the tarmac, no kerbstones or subsidence dug up and sorted. And that's for a driveway, I would guess I highway requires a thicker amount, what I'm getting at is it's gonna cost millions to sort camposol, and we ne...

...ed the council's help.

The current council did allocate €880,000 for the surfacing of Avenida de Los Covachos on C and D over a year ago. The PP party issued legal proceedings to stop that work and 20+ other projects around the municipality. The PP party lost that case and it will be interesting to hear from the Ayuntamiento at the open meeting on 8th February, what their intentions are re this.

LeginSenoj

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:33pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:33pm

Danieljohn1 wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:30am:

is there any security group? I would like to join too. The bigger the better.

Daniel

Each sector has its own Facebook security group, with various levels of activity. Depending on which sector you are on, you can apply to join that sector’s group and the main Camposol security group.

Hope that helps

Michael 1979

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:43pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:43pm

Sorry as I know this is off centre from the original post. It does interest me how much it would cost to put camposol right!! 880k if we took it at 50e a sq metre, and the road is approximately 10m wide, it would tarmac 1.7km. so not even to d sec!! If we imagine all the roads on camposol+ the street lights, pavements etc. The number will be horrific!! If after 12m the council can't be brought to account, then I don't think it will ever happen

Hoops65

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:21pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:21pm

Michael 1979 wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:43pm:

Sorry as I know this is off centre from the original post. It does interest me how much it would cost to put camposol right!! 880k if we took it at 50e a sq metre, and the road is approximately 10m wide, it would tarmac 1.7km. so not even to d sec!! If we imagine all the roads on camposol+ the st...

...reet lights, pavements etc. The number will be horrific!! If after 12m the council can't be brought to account, then I don't think it will ever happen

I agree with you, nothing has happened in the last 5 years, it’s all talk about the roads and the lighting…..surely solar lighting is the way forward to

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LeginSenoj

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:05pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:05pm

Michael 1979 wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:43pm:

Sorry as I know this is off centre from the original post. It does interest me how much it would cost to put camposol right!! 880k if we took it at 50e a sq metre, and the road is approximately 10m wide, it would tarmac 1.7km. so not even to d sec!! If we imagine all the roads on camposol+ the st...

...reet lights, pavements etc. The number will be horrific!! If after 12m the council can't be brought to account, then I don't think it will ever happen

Interesting question. What does “put right” mean? When you ask that question, no one seems to know. You would think there would be a schedule of works agreed by the residents that would be acceptable for completion of the urbanisation. Where is it? It seems to be an urban myth yet people still say they are not paying anything till the urbanisation is finished. It’s a circular argument that suits those that do not actually want anything done. And don’t dare mention Communities of Owners (COO’s), which exist on every poligono on every sector of Camposol. Just ask David Jackson on C sector, who tried to activate his COO and was subject a tirade of abuse.  It is good to see some sensible comments in this thread, but what will the outcome be?

Michael 1979

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:09am

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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:09am

LeginSenoj wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:05pm:

Interesting question. What does “put right” mean? When you ask that question, no one seems to know. You would think there would be a schedule of works agreed by the residents that would be acceptable for completion of the urbanisation. Where is it? It seems to be an urban myth yet people stil...

...l say they are not paying anything till the urbanisation is finished. It’s a circular argument that suits those that do not actually want anything done. And don’t dare mention Communities of Owners (COO’s), which exist on every poligono on every sector of Camposol. Just ask David Jackson on C sector, who tried to activate his COO and was subject a tirade of abuse.  It is good to see some sensible comments in this thread, but what will the outcome be?

When I say put right, I'm referring to streetlights, tarmacked/subsidence free roads, pavements completed.I would personally like a full survey of the required works to complete camposol, as we would know exactly what it would cost, then if the residents are willing to their respective area they can, but I feel the true cost will make it unaffordable 

LeginSenoj

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:32am

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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:32am

Michael 1979 wrote on Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:09am:

When I say put right, I'm referring to streetlights, tarmacked/subsidence free roads, pavements completed.I would personally like a full survey of the required works to complete camposol, as we would know exactly what it would cost, then if the residents are willing to their respective area they ...

...can, but I feel the true cost will make it unaffordable 

There have been estimates of up to €50 million to “complete” Camposol. The entire budget for the council to provide all its services is circa €35 million. I can’t see the other residents of Mazarron agreeing to cancel all services for 18 months, just so the council can spend all its money on Camposol. It is time for people to realise that this “completion” is not going to happen. The main issues are (in no particular order) lights, roads, the Rambla and security. Hopefully these will be on the list of questions for the 8th February meeting, so we can be told what progress has been made since the last election.

sdb137

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:32pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:32pm

Michael 1979 wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:43pm:

Sorry as I know this is off centre from the original post. It does interest me how much it would cost to put camposol right!! 880k if we took it at 50e a sq metre, and the road is approximately 10m wide, it would tarmac 1.7km. so not even to d sec!! If we imagine all the roads on camposol+ the st...

...reet lights, pavements etc. The number will be horrific!! If after 12m the council can't be brought to account, then I don't think it will ever happen

Agree.

It seems the only way is for residents to pay a monthly fee, and this may need to be inforced, I bet that causes uproar, just the mention of it.

But there is no other way.

Is it right that totana residents pay a monthly fee, and it works.?

sdb137

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:35pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:35pm

Hoops65 wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:21pm:

I agree with you, nothing has happened in the last 5 years, it’s all talk about the roads and the lighting…..surely solar lighting is the way forward to

Good idea, solar lighting would work, however cannot see the council doing that.

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