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Bugsy

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:52pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:52pm

Sean95 wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:16am:

Agree, Mazarron is not much better. Public funding seems to be the issue all over. People must help themselves. On demographics the point I was making was that the community spirit was diluted by changing of personnel, maybe with less civic spirit. 

It's a proven fact that when we hit economic bad times, the poorest are affected first and most. We have just come out of a 2 year Covid pandemic which has affected the entire world and Spain is no exception. Since Spain is not exactly one of the richest countries in Europe it was affected more than other European countries. We rolled right into the next crisis with the war in Ukraine and high inflation. Who is affected first? The poorest people......and some of the poorest people of Spain live in the Mazarrón area. Camposol needs younger residents (people in their 40's and 50's) who are still able and willing to work. And Camposol residents need to understand that maintenance costs money and you cannot expect volunteers to do everything for free. We are used to different standards than the Spanish people as well so you can't expect the council to do as we please. So it's pretty simple: people have to pay up. The best example in our area that shows how things can be improved is the Mazarrón Country Club. Why? Paying a montly fee is one of the reasons. Also there is more diversity in ownership over there.

Soniac1963

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:31pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:31pm

Hoops65 wrote on Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:16pm:

I agree, people are moaning about it but not prepared to put their hands in their pockets to help this matter…it ain’t getting no better there that’s why so many properties are up for sale…a lot of people live within the Camposol goldfish bowl and aren’t prepared to look outside it and ...

...see what they can do to help themselves..all you hear is it’s the same in the uk!!!….you don’t expect to move to a community in the sun full mainly of Brits who are quite possibly committing a lot of these crimes against their own…just walking around the square you can see how much the clientele has changed and it’s not for the best I’m afraid….sad really

We didn’t buy on Camposol as sadly heard so many bad reports about the place . Years ago it was a great place to be times change people come and go and crime is higher because people are desperate 

newmarket6

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:03pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:03pm

HelenRooke wrote on Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:11pm:

Out of 5000 houses only a handful of burglaries and again only a handful of people actually moaning. Crime happens all over the World  Spain and Camposol are no different.  We have security groups and lock smiths who are happy to advise individuals on the security of people's properties...

... which would work out a lot cheaper than paying  for a 24 hour a day security company on Camposol  which even in place could never cover every street here.

" A HANDFUL OF BURGLARIES" really, please do not comment on something you know nothing about.

For your information, from the end of November 2021 to May 2022 there were 142 Burglaries, on D Sector alone, Yes 142 !!

That is a statistic the security group had and there ire probably a few they do know of.

A handful of burglaries, I Dont Think So.

sdb137

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:11pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:11pm

newmarket6 wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:03pm:

" A HANDFUL OF BURGLARIES" really, please do not comment on something you know nothing about.

For your information, from the end of November 2021 to May 2022 there were 142 Burglaries, on D Sector alone, Yes 142 !!

That is a statistic the security group had and there ire probably a few they do know of.

A handful of burglaries, I Dont Think So.

I have no doubt that the security company gave you this number, its not right, they are after the business, big numbers will scare people, and drive up business.

I doubt 142 break ins.

If I am wrong, I stand corrected.

But I doubt it

Georgia

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:13pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:13pm

I agree with the reguirement needed for the security on Camposol, and I would gladly contribute to the suggestion of a police station, but on the flip side most of the residents on Camposol cannot condone the method of having to pay for a police station,  all residents living in mazarron   pay their taxes, mazarron town have a police station, as a urbanization in mazarron the community should expect and get what ever it takes to be safe, it would be interesting to know how much of the taxes paid by the residents on Camposol are spent on Camposol, there are no lighting hence the high crime rate, the roads are a joke, I think the town hall is quite happy to sit back and let the volunteers maintain Camposol at their own expense, these are questions that should be asked at the coming meeting 

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sdb137

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:13pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:13pm

Soniac1963 wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:31pm:

We didn’t buy on Camposol as sadly heard so many bad reports about the place . Years ago it was a great place to be times change people come and go and crime is higher because people are desperate 

Agree,

Problems are world wide.

But we must protect ourselves by all means.

sdb137

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:21pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:21pm

Georgia wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:13pm:

I agree with the reguirement needed for the security on Camposol, and I would gladly contribute to the suggestion of a police station, but on the flip side most of the residents on Camposol cannot condone the method of having to pay for a police station,  all residents living in mazarron&nbs...

...p;  pay their taxes, mazarron town have a police station, as a urbanization in mazarron the community should expect and get what ever it takes to be safe, it would be interesting to know how much of the taxes paid by the residents on Camposol are spent on Camposol, there are no lighting hence the high crime rate, the roads are a joke, I think the town hall is quite happy to sit back and let the volunteers maintain Camposol at their own expense, these are questions that should be asked at the coming meeting 

Agree.

No IBI as I was informed is spent on Camposol, it goes to regional government, many say that the upgrading of P/Mazarron, as you will see what is being done is our IBI money, others say no, its money from IBI payed by residents of P/Mazarron.

The only way of knowing, and I have asked the question, is the council, to show us a detailed account of expenditure for Camposol, and P/Mazzarron, and where the funds came from.

The chance of them giving out that, is as much chance of the UK sorting out its problems.  

Georgia

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:16pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:16pm

PeterC wrote on Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:28pm:

Do the owners in the Camposol area pay IBI? If they do surely they are entitled to all the norms of a civilised town? Denounce the council to the Murcia or national government. I have read about these problems for years, and cannot understand why people have continued to go and live there.

After reading all posted messages concerning Camposol, and adding my own comments, I think Peter C has made a bold and interesting suggestion...Denouncing the council, ballsy,,, but it's the best way forward 

Hoops65

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:25pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:25pm

Georgia wrote on Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:16pm:

After reading all posted messages concerning Camposol, and adding my own comments, I think Peter C has made a bold and interesting suggestion...Denouncing the council, ballsy,,, but it's the best way forward 

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Michael 1979

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:03pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:03pm

Just for reference, in the UK black tarmac costs roughly £45-50 per sq. That's just the tarmac, no kerbstones or subsidence dug up and sorted. And that's for a driveway, I would guess I highway requires a thicker amount, what I'm getting at is it's gonna cost millions to sort camposol, and we need the council's help.

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