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Bugsy

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:27pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:27pm

Michael 1979 wrote on Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:41am:

Hopefully something will happen, but I find it amusing, that the town hall, needs to change, camposol's status before it can take over, It's been going on years!!!! I'm sure from a previous meeting, if we set up our community of owners, we'll have to finish the private roads etc in the respective...

... area, our community fees are for maintenance etc not completing the build!!! Don't forget the council have had the assets for years and done nothing with it, include inflation and we'll probably get 20% of what we could of achieved if the council would of acted responsible straight away. 

Ok, so what do you suggest? What is your solution? 

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:41pm

Bugsy wrote on Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:27pm:

Ok, so what do you suggest? What is your solution? 

I'd wait and see how much is in the council account, and wait for a full costing to finish the required works. I think the short fall in the money, is going to be eye watering, I think there will be a long legal argument about where its going to come from. Until we know the two amounts, nothing can be done.

Bugsy

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:50pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:50pm

Michael 1979 wrote on Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:41pm:

I'd wait and see how much is in the council account, and wait for a full costing to finish the required works. I think the short fall in the money, is going to be eye watering, I think there will be a long legal argument about where its going to come from. Until we know the two amounts, nothing c...

...an be done.

Let's assume the council does not have the funds to finish all of Camposol like needed. What's next?

Michael 1979

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:06pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:06pm

Bugsy wrote on Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:50pm:

Let's assume the council does not have the funds to finish all of Camposol like needed. What's next?

I'll guess the next step would be, whoever is higher in government. Which will be very long and tiring!! The main roads/paths etc are council property and they've never finished them in 20yrs

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Bugsy

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:10pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:10pm

Michael 1979 wrote on Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:06pm:

I'll guess the next step would be, whoever is higher in government. Which will be very long and tiring!! The main roads/paths etc are council property and they've never finished them in 20yrs

So the solution is to remain stuck in legal procedures for the next 20 years because sector C & D were not properly finished? What do we do with the COO's of the different poligonos in the meantime? 

Michael 1979

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:22pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:22pm

Bugsy wrote on Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:10pm:

So the solution is to remain stuck in legal procedures for the next 20 years because sector C & D were not properly finished? What do we do with the COO's of the different poligonos in the meantime? 

I'm not sure, I guess individual coo could start up but they would need deep pockets to finish some areas, even if we wanted to we couldn't legally start work on the main roads

Bugsy

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:45pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:45pm

Michael 1979 wrote on Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:22pm:

I'm not sure, I guess individual coo could start up but they would need deep pockets to finish some areas, even if we wanted to we couldn't legally start work on the main roads

We should never start work on the main roads in my opinion because the council is responsible for fixing that problem. But Sector A & B (for example) could actually activate the COO's and start collecting funds for regular maintenance on their poligonos (not maintenance on infrastructure of the public roads!! That is and remains the council's responsibility). Streetlights which went dark during the previous 20 years can be fixed and whatever improvements people would want can be achieved. 

People point fingers at the council constantly but that did not release anybody from their responsibility to contribute to the COO's of the different poligonos. Alot of people use the argument that they were not aware or that they can't do anything until the council finishes everything. I don't buy that argument. I believe people were very comfortable paying nothing. It's even being used as an argument for buying on Camposol: "no community fees". Meanwhile, volunteers have been working their butts of for years to make some positive changes for Camposol while other residents sit on their hands, complain, do nothing and turn parts of Camposol into a ghetto because they simply don't care anymore. The other side of the coin is that longtime residents have saved 1000's of euros, money that should have been invested in Camposol. I understand alot of people are still heavily invested in the past because they are disappointed about what they didn't get. I get it and feel for them. At the same time their property value has gone up in those 20 years while not investing what they should have to maintain Camposol. I understand people are disappointed and angry for all that has happened (or didn't happen) in the past. But should that block all the positive development that Camposol can have? How about the people who have been here for 5 years or less? It's not exactly fair to them that a percentage of Camposol residents don't want to move an inch over an issue they were never part of. Some people actually want to invest in Camposol and its future. Within 10 years Camposol can be so much better than it already is with all the positive effects connected to it.......if only we would take some matters into our own hands and start taking our responsibility as well.

Don't get me wrong, I am not attacking you in any way. This is just my general opinion about the entire matter.

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