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Sean95

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:34pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:34pm

Vote is only binding until the next one, like general elections. 

The "will of the people" is not cast in stone forever, especially when we know so much more now than we did 3 years ago.

I'm now worried about Healthcare situation in Spain in no-deal event. Did we vote for this?

Els

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:43pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:43pm

jobets wrote on Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:31pm:

The UK had an overall trade deficit of -£67 billion with the EU in 2017. A surplus of £28 billion on trade in services was outweighed by a deficit of -£95 billion on trade in goods. The UK had a trade surplus of £41 billionwith non-EU countries.

To use your analogy, UK is paying £95 billion annually for the use of the pool and they will scheme to the end to stop us leaving. ...

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If this is correct,the UK should leave without a deal,why should they try to negotiate anything if they would win that much by leaving?Because of the borders?Isn't it a bit strange to want to leave but not want borders?Or only want borders for people and goods to come in to the UK but not going out?

jobets

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:45pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:45pm

Sean dont worry. There are 3 times more spanish in uk than Brits in Spain and Spain will want to protect them. Also Spain and UK are already doing a deal to reciprocally protect their citizens rights in each country. The bigger issue which will not affect you is the freedom of our great country and its ability to be allowed to stand alone and prosper for generations to come withoit being tied by a floundering Europe. We are still world leaders in modern industries and computer science. Spain needs us to buy their lettuce and supply our technology to them. Lets take a chill pill and watch our great country grow.

Sean95

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:15pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:15pm

Agree. It's difficult to see what's coming from the scare factory, but the truth is probably somewhere in the  middle. We are breaking away  from our biggest trading partner, 44% of exports and 53% of our imports, with no arrangements in place for March 29th. The UK needs food (so the Murcia farmers needn't worry!). It'll just cost more.  It takes years to negotiate trade deals with individual countries. I just can't see that we're remotely ready and it is worrying. With a withdrawal agreement a settling in period would allow all these facilities, including ex-pats rights, healthcare etc to be agreed. Maybe I'm being a pessimist?!

Amelia

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:54pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:54pm

dmoss wrote on Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:05pm:

Voted out not any different from an election many do not vote but it is binding but when politicians disagree suddenly a vote is not binding I really hope they display the MPs who are voting against leaving so that the people can decide wether they are democratic or not 

Never trust them again to do what they say ...

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An electoral vote is binding. A referendum is not. An informed decision is a good one. Complete the last line yourself. 😥

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Dirka

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:15pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:15pm

Well said 👍

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:11pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:11pm

Amelia wrote on Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:54pm:

An electoral vote is binding. A referendum is not. An informed decision is a good one. Complete the last line yourself. 😥

The UK Public where  given 2 choices.. in the Referendum Do you want to stay (IN) the EU or do you want of the  (OUT) of the EU..the majority voted OUT...the government cannot go against a Democratic vote....it would make a mockery of Democracy and would defiantly be the end of any political party that was in government if they did not carry out the will of the people.

dmoss

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:22pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:22pm

Why bother having referendum if not binding I think great idea is to forget Brexit leave Europe and be a great country again not a lap dog to Germany and France 

dmoss

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:25pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:25pm

The English in Spain are similar to Spanish in uk there is a reciprocal health agreement another thing put about to frighten people to change their vote as a non voter I only believe in democracy does anyone else ? 

dmoss

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:27pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:27pm

Hooray at last some sense 

No deal is a good deal 

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