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PeterC

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:19pm

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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:19pm

I would only say that there may be nothing stopping an agent from making that their terms, but they surely should make that clear to a prospective buyer.

Buttercup1206

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:16am

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PeterC wrote on Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:19pm:

I would only say that there may be nothing stopping an agent from making that their terms, but they surely should make that clear to a prospective buyer.

They informed me by email only after the price had been negiogiated and agreed by myself and the seller. If I had known I would have negotiated a lower price to take account of the estate agent fees. Thankfully I have not paid a deposit on the property. 

The estate agent fees are also  5% of the sale price which seems extortionate in comparison to other fees I have researched.

Sunnyspain

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:26am

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Dave289 wrote on Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:11pm:

We paid a 10% deposit to purchase a bungalow in Camposol back in May, and are hoping to complete within the next couple of weeks (huge delays, because no-one told us before we signed the contract and paid the deposit that the owner had died, and his next of kin couldn't sell the property until pr...

...obate had been completed).

We have to pay the taxes, solicitors fees, notary fees, etc., but not the estate agents fees - that is the responsibility of the vendor.

Two options - knock the estate agents fees off the lowest price that you are prepared to pay for the property, or find another property through another estate agent that doesn't charge the buyers their fees (we are using Mercers).

Is that on D32 by any chance

PeterC

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:00am

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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:00am

5% + IVA seems the norm here - only option is the “fixed fee” chaps.

Bugsy

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:15am

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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:15am

Buttercup1206 wrote on Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:16am:

They informed me by email only after the price had been negiogiated and agreed by myself and the seller. If I had known I would have negotiated a lower price to take account of the estate agent fees. Thankfully I have not paid a deposit on the property. 

The estate agent fees are also  5% of the sale price which seems extortionate in comparison to other fees I have researched....

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The seller is responsable for the real estate agent fee. If they want to stick it on you it's pretty simple in my opinion: just tell them no. You did not hire nore choose the real estate agent. Tell them they can take the deal at the price you offered or just walk away. Plenty of property for sale in the Murcia region. At the same time, get a different sollicitor. One that actually knows what he's doing and who is looking after your interests. 

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Dave289

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:35pm

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Sunnyspain wrote on Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:26am:

Is that on D32 by any chance

It is in sector D, possibly D32 (I don't know how the sectors are subdivided)

Christine 78

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:09pm

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In my experience of buying property the "norm" and legal requirements are 10% deposit (unrefundable if you cancel on the agreed sale price).  3% Commission  or even less, buying through English agent, 5% if through a Spanish agent and you pay the commission.( Not so through an English agent ) The norm is seller pays them.  Another ruse you might be asked to pay is Plus Valia  on a property you want to buy ,which the seller is also liable for, - but depends on nationality expectations and what can be negotiated. Also, watch out the seller does not ask for part payment in cash (to avoid taxes). What is law, and what actually goes on; is sometimes quite different in Spain.

Ginger

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:13pm

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It is common practice in Europe for buyer to pay the sellers estate agency fees. We bought in France and paid the fees we sold in France buyer paid our estate agency. The same occurs here in Spain , we bought an apartment paid the fees we sold the apartment buyer paid the fees. When you think about it it is swings and roundabouts.

Mags44

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:42pm

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Buttercup1206 wrote on Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:21am:

I am buying a property in Murcia and I have been told that I need to pay the estate agent fees. Apparently it is common for the buyer to pay the estate agent in Murcia. 

I did not know this at the point of negotiations on the price of the property. It's going to cost me nearly 2,500€ extra.

I have delayed paying the deposit and have asked the sellers to further negiogiate the price to reflect this. 

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

The estate agent is contracted by the vendor to sell his/her property and the fees should be paid by him/her and not by the buyer, who does generally not sign any contract with any estate agent! The buyer is free to go to whichever estate agent he/she likes, who may be marketing the property that they want and they do not pay anything for this. There is often more than one agent selling each property but sometimes the vendor is offered better fees if he/she only signs up a single agent. If you have an agent trying to get the selling fees from you, then I would suggest that you find a different agent! The vendor pays for agents' fees for selling the property and the Plus Valía tax, if applicable (this is the increase in land value since the property was last sold and affects the price that the vendor can ask for the property, so is to his/her benefit). The buyer pays for his/her abogado to do the legal work, the Notary for the actual signing, and the government taxes due on the purchase. If buying a resale property, your abogado and the Notary, should ensure that any outstanding bills such as electricity, water, IBI (council tax) community charges etc. are paid or the monies have been retained from the amount that the vendor gets in his/her hand on the day of the signing to cover these debts. Any debts left on the property after the signing at the Notary, will be the responsibility of the new owner of the property to pay off, so ensure that your abogado does his/her job properly! It is not common, in Spain at least, for the buyer to pay for the estate agent's fees! I worked in real estate here for 10 years and never, ever came across this. The person who signs a contract with the agent is the person who should be paying for the service that they have contracted!

Bugsy

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 6:22pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 6:22pm

Ginger wrote on Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:13pm:

It is common practice in Europe for buyer to pay the sellers estate agency fees. We bought in France and paid the fees we sold in France buyer paid our estate agency. The same occurs here in Spain , we bought an apartment paid the fees we sold the apartment buyer paid the fees. When you think abo...

...ut it it is swings and roundabouts.

This is factually incorrect. Just to name a few countries where this is not the case (personal experience/knowledge): Holland, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Zweden, Finland. So the fact it happens in France (and sometimes in Spain) does not make it common practice in Europe. 

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