Wearing of face masks - Page 4

Where do I mention any other Scandanavian country?I was comparing them with the UK, Spain and similar countries that have decided that turning a country into a policed state is a good idea.
The problem is that people listen to the dross we are fed and think it must be true.
The so called 'experts' talk as much drivel as the media and the politicians.
Sweden has a population of just under a 7th of the UK yet the UK has more than 8 times the death count of Sweden and that's with the UK going into a paranoid android loony lock down.
The UK have over 100 more deaths per million of the population than Sweden.
Of course this is all relevant if the figures the powers that be spout are accurate.
I highly doubt that as well.
Either way, Sweden's approach has not been the disaster most predicted and in my opinion that is how all countries should act.
Get on with life.
What if another virus comes along? All hide again?
What's the point of staying alive if you can't do anything with your life?
A female scientist posed the scenario a couple of weeks back.
You're given the choice.
You can stay at home for the rest of your days. You never have to leave home, your food and any other needs will be brought to your door.
It will all be provided free of charge. No need to work. Just stay safe.
Or you can take a chance and get out and live your life.
She didn't need to put it to a poll, she knows what most sane, rational people would pick.
Like I've already posted, it's a threat but then so are many things in life.

you mention Sweden in your first sentence

Sweden 80k Denmark 14k, Norway 9k, Finland 7k 

Interesting figures. Common sense is needed and just take what ever precautions that will help. This pandemic will be a big struggle and unity purpose will be vital. And good leaders!!

Agreed.

Correct, and only Sweden.
I stated that I hadn't mentioned any OTHER Scandanavian countries.
The comparison was to here, in the UK and other paranoid countries.
We have gone overboard and some, Sweden are more relaxed and getting on with life without too much fuss.
The firgures show that the softer approach doesn't produce the mass death toll the media would have hoped for.

BTW, you don't offer any thoughts on the rest of the post.
Sweden v's the UK is a pretty good argument that 'lock down' has little effect.
It will likely be detrimental in the long run.

That's similar to what the media do.
Find the most contrasting figures to make more drama.

Surely we must also take into account the population of countries?
Of the other 3 you mention all have less than 6 million with Denmark highest, then Norway, then Finland.
Coincidence?
Maybe.
By far the hardest hit city in the UK is London.
An absolutely overcrowded sh*t bin.
Coincidence?
Maybe.

I took your advice and cross-checked with populations

                                           Sweden                Denmark                     Norway                    Finland

Population                         10,300,000         5826000                   5432000                  5528000

Covid 19 cases                    81,012              14235                      9268                        7466

Allowed for populations, Sweden has more than three times the Danish incidence, four and half times Norweigan incidence and almost six times Finland's incidence.

Your assertion that Sweden without social distancing and masks, are doing better is disputed by their three Nordic neighbours and the figures back them up.

Denmark, Norway and Finland have been aggressively tracking and tracing.

London is doing badly because people refuse to follow the best scientific advice. And tracking and tracing has been underfunded across all of the UK.

This is not a word game, this is life and death. The best science says wear masks, social distance and wash hands.

I will do that to protect you and everyone else 

You, I hope will do it to protect me and everyone else.

Can we leave it at that?

Just take a look at the USA 150,000 + dead and there are many more to come.

That is the result of a chaotic approach to managing the disease and the fact that a great number of Americans are utterly clueless and ignorant.

Some people will have the virus and have NO symptoms. They are dangerous.
Some people will have the virus and only suffer mild effects. They are also dangerous.

Some people will have the virus, suffer badly but survive. They will have damaged systems from which they will suffer for the rest of their lives. They are the endangered!

Some people will have the virus, suffer very badly and die. They are also the endangered.

Wear the mask to protect the endangered. You do NOT know whether or not you are a carrier. 

No, we can't!
You still use the figures that look the most dramatic.
What is this obsession with Scandanavia?
My original comparison was with Sweden and other countries that opted for 'lock down'.
You ignore my figures regarding Sweden and the UK.
We had drama lock down and we have faired worse than Sweden.

You ignore the figures that show we, after paranoid lock down, have over 100 more deaths per milion folk than Sweden.
It's worked really well huh?

London is doing badly because as stated, it's a sh*t hole and needs razing to the ground.

Those that only follow the media only hear one side of so called expert advice.
There are plenty that say masks are a bad idea, that such a drastic lock down was a bad idea but they aren't allowed on mainstream tv.
It isn't dramatic enough.
Please don't do anything to protect me.
If folk wish to keep their distance then I must respect their individual wishes but I have and will carry on with life as normally as this paranoia will allow.
One day it may come out that all this has done more harm than good.
Then you will be the guilty party!
We can leave it at that if you wish. :-)