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oadbyman

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:50pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:50pm

Fem90 wrote on Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:21am:

Dear Andymac1951. I have read through your post and found it very interesting. But you missed some points in your membership analysis that we, as in UK 🇬🇧, pay vast sum of money into the union and get nothing substantial back in return.

My logic is this, I pay annual subscriptions into professional bodies but I don't get much back for my membership.  However, the thought of being a member of these various professional institutions afford me with the opportunities to tap into their wealth of information database to assist me...

... in performing my duties professionally.  This is why UK pay into the EU to have access into all the visible and invisible markets that exist within. 

A lot of areas of the UK did get money back from the EU, (to quote some Hill Farmers, Cornwall ,Wales deprived areas of the UK, ie not South East) they are asking the UK government for money.

Another benefit were

the removal; of red tape Export/Import and cost of having the border checks

Lorry parks in Kent not required

Removal of the cost of the paperwork will increase costs on all things moving across the channel.

The EU leaving has lots of hidden costs as Expats understand by the change of exchange rate since 2016

Still the UK is as of next week in the big wide world but with an agreement.

Lets all hope 

that this experiment works for the UK.

The Sovereignty that was so important to the UK (Which very rarely objected when new laws were enacted) against the other 27 countries pays the dividend that was promised.

oadbyman

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:52pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:52pm

CFC1905 wrote on Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:15pm:

Far from the end though of the UK.  Now the shackles are off and that moron Macron who was only fighting in anticipation of his next election can no longer intervene we will see the oight at the end of the tunnel become a beacon

Not only do the new 50+ trade deals already agreed to come into force but there are no tariffs between us and Macron/Merkel (sorry the EU) so I would argue that Boris did well...

...

Lots of hurdles still to overcome but expect many changes apart from the UK going down the pan

How many new trade deal?

That we did not have by being a member of the EU.

And of what value - minimal

Mags44

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:12pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:12pm

oadbyman wrote on Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:52pm:

How many new trade deal?

That we did not have by being a member of the EU.

And of what value - minimal

Just clinging onto the last remnants of their prophesies of future greatness?

oadbyman

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:25pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:25pm

Mags44 wrote on Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:12pm:

Just clinging onto the last remnants of their prophesies of future greatness?

Thy are picking u the sand in their hands and the result is known

CFC1905

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:43pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:43pm

In the last 3 years we have signed 50+ agreements and under the Brexit deal we not only continue to trade tariff free with the EU but can continue to sign further deals with anyone even if the EU cannot 

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:25pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:25pm

CFC1905 wrote on Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:43pm:

In the last 3 years we have signed 50+ agreements and under the Brexit deal we not only continue to trade tariff free with the EU but can continue to sign further deals with anyone even if the EU cannot 

but the question was which were not available via the EU?

And

What was the value of any new deals?

If the  deal was available through our membership of the EU, there is no gain.

CFC1905

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:53pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:53pm

And this week we will sign a deal with Turkey valued at 29bn based on 2019 figures

Does it matter if we had the same or similar deals within the the EU when we made it abundantly clear we did  NOT want to remain as part of it

Potentially a bigger question for the EU,  who firmly tried to insist that the UK  would crumble without them, is why so many countries are more than happy to sign up and continue to trade with the UK 

Surely they couldn't be wrong, could they....?

oadbyman

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:18am

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:18am

CFC1905 wrote on Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:53pm:

And this week we will sign a deal with Turkey valued at 29bn based on 2019 figures

Does it matter if we had the same or similar deals within the the EU when we made it abundantly clear we did  NOT want to remain as part of it

Potentially a bigger question for the EU,  who firmly tried to insist that the UK  would crumble without them, is why so many countries are more than happy to sign up and continue to trade with the UK 

Surely they couldn't be wrong, could they....?

just keeping the same deal nothing new

just let us know the extra value of the new deals over EU deals

CFC1905

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:09am

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:09am

Under EU  rules we cannot sign anything independently but now we can and have on top of keeping the business with the EU 

If you want to mock Brexit  feel free but remember you were/are in the minority (twice) and it is being delivered 

There are bound to be changes but at least we no longer have to bear Macron and Merkel trying to make all the decisions on behalf of a 27 democratic group which clearly is not how the EU should be run

Many countries will now have their own battles to be fought not least Spain wanting free access to Gibraltar for their workers. I am sure a compromise will be reached which may allow similar access to spain for example

oadbyman

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:33am

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:33am

CFC1905 wrote on Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:09am:

Under EU  rules we cannot sign anything independently but now we can and have on top of keeping the business with the EU 

If you want to mock Brexit  feel free but remember you were/are in the minority (twice) and it is being delivered 

There are bound to be changes but at least we no longer have to bear Macron and Merkel trying to make all the decisions on behalf of a 27 democratic group which clearly is not how the EU should be run

Many countries will now have their own battles to be fought not least Spain wanting free access to Gibraltar for their workers. I am sure a compromise will be reached which may allow similar access to spain for example

I don't know where you live.

I am an EU citizen.

You SPOUT all this stuff about new deals, and I ask you to quantify.

I ask you a very simple question the value of new trade deal that do not simply replace the deals the UK had under the EU.

You post everything EXCEPT an answer to that question.

The truth is that the UK has left the EU, and has less trade deals than it did when it was in the EU.

I do not bother following what trade deals the UK get, but at present from your statements of 'more to come', the UK now have WTO terms with lots of countries where the EU has trade deals.

Happy to be corrected, and I hope that the move from the EU is successful for the people of the UK.

At present even with the UK-EU Deal the UK has lots of extra costs in carrying out trade with the world, and with the devaluation of the £ since 2016, there is not bonus that was promised to the people when they voted to leave the EU.

Again I am happy to be corrected if you can show clearly that the financial positives against the nett cost of membership.

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