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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:21pm
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Coutinho56 wrote on Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:33pm:
Believe me , a great percentage of Spanish people want to stay in EU . I would say at least 80% , but you never know.
Will they make a stupid decision like the British did ? I doubt.
In your undoubted unbiased opinion. Let’s not forget that neither Norway or Switzerland are interested in joining the EU and that during its time as an EU member the U.K. was the 3rd largest contributor whereas Spain has always been a nett beneficiary.
To all the pro Brexit Brits who own property in Spain or live here and also want Spain to leave the EU: please sell your crap and move back to the UK.
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:17pm
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Bugsy wrote on Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:19am:
To all the pro Brexit Brits who own property in Spain or live here and also want Spain to leave the EU: please sell your crap and move back to the UK.
That has to be the most absurd comment I have ever read.
Mags44 wrote on Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:53pm:
Whispers, whispers, oh those whispers...... There will always be those who have made a terrible mistake and are desperate to persuade others to do the same! There is more evidence though, that shows that the majority of other EU countries' politicians feel pity towards the UK for having shot them...
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...selves in the foot, rather than wishing to follow them into obscurity! The UK is now trying so hard to justify its decision and is scrabbling about trying to sort out the chaos that it has created and has now started the blame game, blaming everyone else but itself! Spain has done very well out of being a member of the EU. Without the various grants that Spain has received, it would still be a relatively backward country with terrible roads and other communication systems. Instead we have wonderful roads and a rail system that the UK can only dream about having one day. The EU has allowed Spain to do this and more. Some of us were living here before Spain joined the EU and can personally remember how far it has come since then. I think that Spain knows which side its bread is buttered! With the greatest respect to those "ex-pats" who do, I would guess that the majority of those who insist on calling themselves "ex-pats" and not "immigrants", don't speak enough Spanish to understand the country's politics and don't watch Spanish TV and so are unlikely to have an educated opinion on the subject.
The European Union isn’t a friend.
Only narrow minded people will think Brexit was a bad choice. Brexit was about sovereignty not anything else. Just because it’s impacted free movement doesn’t make it a failure. Covid we made our own decisions. We are now trading outside Europe. We can now see BRICKS are now trading better. We need to look long term not at the short term. Only around 500.000 brits live in spain . Many countries are trapped in the European Union as it’s like a debt they will never clear. Greece, Italy france Germany spain are not doing financially better. The poorer countries take more out then that contribute. The western countries are now failing to maintain themselves. This is why the uprisings are occurring. Back in 2000 I was in spain, the lovely Union decided that the lemon and orange groves would be paid to let the fruit rot, because they could go elsewhere… probably happed to other industries. They have taken the prosperity and moved it elsewhere leaving the country in poverty. It’s now all about taxation.
digital currency will be next. A big club would only work if all countries were equal, wages,house prices , food prices. But they are not. Tax and vat are different too… I’m surprised this union hasn’t collapsed already. People are realising that their home land has lost control,England has self serving politicians that did not make the use of the situation. Point given.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:00pm
Lornski, you've clearly demonstrated that you do not understand what the EU is for and how it works. The only thing I agree with in your post is how the piss-poor national UK government has been awful. It'll be interesting to see who the UK blames now for their failures. I somehow suspect they'll try to continue blaming the EU, with the support of the crap newspapers like the Express and the Mail.
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DH123 wrote on Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:00pm:
Lornski, you've clearly demonstrated that you do not understand what the EU is for and how it works. The only thing I agree with in your post is how the piss-poor national UK government has been awful. It'll be interesting to see who the UK blames now for their failures. I somehow suspect they'll...
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... try to continue blaming the EU, with the support of the crap newspapers like the Express and the Mail.
Brexit was for sovereignty and to make our own laws and choices. You clearly think it’s working.
The European Union is a mass of unelected bureaucrats.
Countries that do not conform get penalised if they go against rules and regulations. If you look at the bigger picture your see that all the countries are failing the population. We have farmers starting to fight back, politicians do not live in the real world. They have completely different views and laws than us working ants. Lockdown showed this. While people were locked in and fined the wealthiest still flew around and did whatever they wanted. The vaccine roll out showed us how controlling the European government was. The bullying from European Union that disagreed with what Brexit. We still see this now. The weak government of Britain is why it has failed in places. It’s not about holidays and free movement. It was to do with making own rules, unfortunately The British government didn’t and still hasn’t got over the fact the people wanted out of this sinking ship.
I do realise it was mainly trades movement of people and laws that were for all, at the same time I lived in Spain from 2000 and rules were not followed like the weak British that always want to pay a fine and abide by stupid rules.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:20pm
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Lornski wrote on Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:56am:
The European Union isn’t a friend.
Only narrow minded people will think Brexit was a bad choice. Brexit was about sovereignty not anything else. Just because it’s impacted free movement doesn’t make it a failure. Covid we made our own decisions. We are now trading outside Europe. We can now see BRICKS are now trading better. W...
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...e need to look long term not at the short term. Only around 500.000 brits live in spain . Many countries are trapped in the European Union as it’s like a debt they will never clear. Greece, Italy france Germany spain are not doing financially better. The poorer countries take more out then that contribute. The western countries are now failing to maintain themselves. This is why the uprisings are occurring. Back in 2000 I was in spain, the lovely Union decided that the lemon and orange groves would be paid to let the fruit rot, because they could go elsewhere… probably happed to other industries. They have taken the prosperity and moved it elsewhere leaving the country in poverty. It’s now all about taxation.
digital currency will be next. A big club would only work if all countries were equal, wages,house prices , food prices. But they are not. Tax and vat are different too… I’m surprised this union hasn’t collapsed already. People are realising that their home land has lost control,England has self serving politicians that did not make the use of the situation. Point given.
Well said Lornski
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:25pm
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DH123 wrote on Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:00pm:
Lornski, you've clearly demonstrated that you do not understand what the EU is for and how it works. The only thing I agree with in your post is how the piss-poor national UK government has been awful. It'll be interesting to see who the UK blames now for their failures. I somehow suspect they'll...
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... try to continue blaming the EU, with the support of the crap newspapers like the Express and the Mail.
DH123, I’m not altogether sure that you know what the EU is all about. Just look around the EU and see the discontent, especially the farmers. Hungry and Poland are constantly at odds with Brussels. Nation borders are once again being closed and policed. The EU is so good that neither Norway or Switzerland wish to join.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:27pm
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Lornski wrote on Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:13pm:
Brexit was for sovereignty and to make our own laws and choices. You clearly think it’s working.
The European Union is a mass of unelected bureaucrats.
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Countries that do not conform get penalised if they go against rules and regulations. If you look at the bigger picture your see that all the countries are failing the population. We have farmers starting to fight back, politicians do not live in the real world. They have completely different views and laws than us working ants. Lockdown showed this. While people were locked in and fined the wealthiest still flew around and did whatever they wanted. The vaccine roll out showed us how controlling the European government was. The bullying from European Union that disagreed with what Brexit. We still see this now. The weak government of Britain is why it has failed in places. It’s not about holidays and free movement. It was to do with making own rules, unfortunately The British government didn’t and still hasn’t got over the fact the people wanted out of this sinking ship.
I do realise it was mainly trades movement of people and laws that were for all, at the same time I lived in Spain from 2000 and rules were not followed like the weak British that always want to pay a fine and abide by stupid rules.
Much the same way the French have done, and still do. They only follow the rules if it is to their benefit.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:22am
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I most certainly have and I would suggest that you take a long look in the mirror and ask the one looking back at you why it is you are such an unpleasant individual.
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