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Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 1:13pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 1:13pm

I have every sympathy with those Camposolians, many of whom are living on their retirement pensions, who are reluctant to pay to finish off the work which Masa should have done and which they were promised would be done.

However I think that blaming Mazarron Council and expecting them to sort everything out is a mistake.

Many builders have gone bust in the UK and the local councils there do not pick up the pieces nor do they have to. I read about a developer in Blackpool that went bust and it was left up to the homeowners to fund the completion of the works and I suspect that that is normal both in Spain and the UK.

Personally I think it is a mistake not to discuss a way forward with Mazarron Council. JFK said "Let us never negotiate out of fear but let us never fear to negotiate". 

rma44

Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:02pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:02pm

Christine 75 wrote on Mon Mar 2, 2020 6:52pm:

Irma44 and Gordy, -Please stop pontificating about things you so obviously know nothing of; and telling us Camposolers what to do when you don't even live here.  When you know nothing about a subject Just keep quiet !

Christine 75, please don't assume you know what I know!  Having had personal experience buying directly from MASA many year's ago in another Costa, and reading the posts put onto the original Camposol forum by worried early adopters, I am well aware of the problems MASA created for Camposol throughout it's history.....you don't actually have to live there to know about it. I've also had experience of how the Councils operate in Spain, with regard to developers, it gets a bit tiring to keep reading posts from Camposol residents demanding the Council to bail them out, and moaning about a situation many knew about when purchasing resale property!

Just tell me why you think the other taxpayers in the Mazarron region should foot the bill? As many have said on here, get together and fund it yourselves or just accept it for what is!

rma44

Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:09pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:09pm

Chris JW wrote on Mon Mar 2, 2020 3:34pm:

I bought off plan on B before there was a single road or property on B side. I was assured the roads and services would be in place before building was allowed to start as this was statutory requirement. The council should have enforced this but MASA backhanders ensured they got away with it. 

From my experience you could never believe a thing MASA staff said, and if you bought a new property through an agent (and there were many selling MASA houses in the early 2000's with their cheap viewing trips) they would say anything to get a sale....their commission was massive! Unfortunately many Brits took it all as gospel, and people were almost desperate to buy because prices went up by the month at that time!

Tony1948

Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:13pm

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jaz007 wrote on Tue Mar 3, 2020 10:33am:

I know I've only purchased last year in the great community known as Camposol. I understand there is historic issues the residents would like sorting out, before a Community of Owners is set up - these will not be resolved by the council as they've stated they will only look and maintain the publ...

...ic and not private roads - it is a start that Camposol have been given a budget of 500,000 euro's.

On the CRA website there is a meeting in the Town Hall on 12th mar 20 - apparently on the agenda is Community of Owners, the CRA are not going to attend, they would also like donations for their "Note: We have had to pay some of the lawyers for advice and it is costly. Should you wish to make a donation you can via PayPal – [email protected]"

Extract from the CRA website "However, a meeting has been scheduled with the Town Hall for March 12th to which the CRA has been invited with only one item on the agenda CoO’s. Because of all the other outstanding issues and the need to fully engage with a legal body versed in these issues we will not be attending this meeting on the 12th March 2020."

I will not be donating to a futile course.

For Camposol to move forward - residents and non-residents have to get together and enquire about the Community of Owners, then hopefully we can all move forward and in the right direction. Yes I understand some owners are totally against this and having to spend more monies - until it is investigated on how much it's going to cost; all owners are in the dark. It is about time someone took the bull by the horns and started the procedure into the Community of Owners set up - my thinking it should be started by residents and not the non-residents that should investigate this, on the understanding that they live full time on Camposol full time and not part time.

The Mazarron Council must acknowledge it's responsibility

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jaz007

Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:22pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:22pm

Tony1948 wrote on Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:13pm:

The Mazarron Council must acknowledge it's responsibility

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Hi Tony1948 - I agree that Mazarron Council have to acknowledge their responsibility for the chaos caused; but as previously stated on the CRA website they have gone through legal avenues at an expense to themselves, in some cases the arguments put forward are out of statute of limitations.

Surely residents should also accept their responsibilities - even though the majority were probably not aware of the Community of Owners and led down the proverbial garden path.

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Christine 75

Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:24pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:24pm

rma44 - you have already been corrected in your wrong thinking twice now by others on this forum; yet you will not accept you could be wrong. -  Read other comment more carefully, and you won't show your ignorance so much when you rush to post.  Other areas of Mazarron, i.e. The Port ( where you live) will not be subsidising Camposol any more than the rest of the region subsidised The  new Paseo, the new Sports Complex, The new Marina, etc. etc. which were not even in need of attention, let alone millions of Euros spent on them. 

Tony1948

Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:38pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:38pm

jaz007 wrote on Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:22pm:

Hi Tony1948 - I agree that Mazarron Council have to acknowledge their responsibility for the chaos caused; but as previously stated on the CRA website they have gone through legal avenues at an expense to themselves, in some cases the arguments put forward are out of statute of limitations.

Surely residents should also accept their responsibilities - even though the majority were probably not aware of the Community of Owners and led down the proverbial garden path....

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Only one item was outside the statute of limitations.

The Mazarron Council still has the reponsibility to deal with ALL the others.

rma44

Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:48pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:48pm

Christine75. Once again you make many assumptions! I don't know what planet you're on....the Council, Mazarron region and EU funding went towards the expenditure on the items you mentioned which were either refurbs to originally adopted areas or new facilities for ALL people of the WHOLE region to enjoy.

I'm not going to argue with you, I'm afraid you get far too personal to have a reasoned debate with, but I would suggest that all the moaners on Camposol should form a new private forum and not discuss their problems in an open forum such as this. You would not then be bothered with comments from people from outside your community who, contrary to what you keep going on about DO know what their talking about and will complain if they have to foot the Camposol bill!

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Posted: Tue Mar 1, 2022 8:47am

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Posted: Tue Mar 1, 2022 8:47am

rma44 wrote on Sun Mar 1, 2020 10:43am:

I don't think the Council started Camposol.....it was Masa. The Council only adopt an area when it's finished to their standards. As other's have said on this thread, it shouldn't be a financial burden for all the tax payers in the Mazarron area to bail you out, you have to finance it yourselves.

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