Are the EU negotiators a bunch of bullies - Page 16

Agree Ivor99, it's what we're not being told that's worrying. All the unpublished govt surveys etc., will never see the light of day because they don't want to scare the public. We're all arguing in a vacuum. Calling the 40 odd million who didn't vote to leave "losers" doesn't help. Calling all EU officials derogatory names doesn't help. Going back to WW2. doesn't help. Closing our minds to any negative outcomes, there will be some, doesn't help. €100m to private operators for extra ferries is the tip of the iceberg. The rest, queues for Irish passports, stockpiling medicines, moving assets abroad, are not the indications of a prosperous future. We just need to know the truth, however bad it is...now, because it will reveal itself eventually. Maybe it will be good but the signs ain't. 

Same argument another vote And if you do not vote the wH I am telling you then let's have another vote 

We are adults we made A decision now abide by it or perhaps next election we will also contest the vote untill the people agree with us 

What happened to Democracy not yours not mine a vote tell people the truth MPs would not know it if they got bitten by it 

Out no deal and the UK can has and should stand alone 

Didn't realise there was so much detail involved in Leave process. It's being fed to us  in dribs and drabs. People need the truth now... 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/30/food-prices-to-finance-what-a-no-deal-brexit-could-mean-for-britain. 

sorry to digress ,28%of the electorate didn't bother to vote on the referendum ,One of the most important votes in our lifetime thrown away. after all the fighting from Magna Carta to present day, trying to get the vote ,by both men and Woman .I stopped off at a service station awhile back, just before the Rover day shift started there was a 2metre pile of sun newspapers waiting to be picked up a few quality ones that was it .you are right Sean ?the majority of people wouldn't know the truth and wouldn't believe it anyway unless the Sun hadn't printed it .Appologies to sun readers .The reason the rover went ponto was a bad attitude and highly Unionised militant workforce ,full of sun readers ,plus bad management that filled its own pockets.Our attitude to the Eu we think they need us mmmm?Rule ourselves independence ?Most people forget the winter of discontent in the 70s and prior to that crawling to the IMF for a loan.When the pound hits 20cent to the pound is that the point that "project fear"is believed.We as a country have always been anti eu ,but like it or not it's been our wealth creator these last 40years and has increased our living standards .we now have an idea what coming up the road time and  to change our minds and opinion (aren't we allowed to change our minds)I remember ruling ourselves but all I see as Churchill said "is toil ,sweat and tears"in the future .

It would seem democracy is finished so X amount did not vote not did they in the election so should we have it again??? 

Same argument same outcome and to down the highest selling newspaper readers as not aware of the current situation is not going to Adhere you to the people who voted either way. The outcome is finished a vote was taken I did not vote but will agree with the democratic vote and back to my earlier point should you have a vote every week until they get fed up and agree with the minority that is not democracy it's russian Iran Iraq they would vote till the electorate agreed with the politicians 

The UK can stand alone and France Germany sell us more than we sell them so will they want a deal ???

Referring to ww2 is current surely history is the best guide to the future or should we all join heir Merkel in her idea of Germanies EU I prefer to quote the past on  line to the future 

What ignorance dmoss,you have no right to say anything if you didn't vote that's surely the bottom line.And Obviously a sun reader .Shoot.......

People with no credibal argument will always use bad mouthing the opposition because they lack a creditable argument I will read any paper and down knowone for what they read? I like millions of others did not vote because I could see no  way that politicians would point us in the worst direction sadly the non voters were wrong and we are being sold a no difference solution to appease the nation and people who can only abuse others because they can not agree with the majority whereas I do so do many of my friends who just want to see an end to this farce to appease people like you who do not agree with democracy you will obviously never be appeased because it's not your idea 

Your Democratic Compass ain't working Dmoss  ,you didn't vote!!!!no discussion .

But I will back the winners 

It's democracy whether I voted is immaterial we are talking about the majority the non voters have no say in the result but should adhere to it as it was voted for the minority are trying to use the non voters as proxy votes very strange