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gorcol

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:03pm

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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:03pm

Vista 70 wrote on Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:05pm:

gorcol, I shall do my best to explain why I own a holiday home in Spain AND voted for a clean Brexit. I, or rather we, have owned a holiday home in Spain for a number of years. We have happily integrated where we could with the local people and other Brits there. It's an easy couple of hours trav...

...el time to the sun and relaxation and I truly hope to be able to retire properly there. I cannot see the Spanish government forcing ALL Brits out of Spain and abandon either their permanent residences or holiday property. What do you think that would do to the economy. Never mind the backlash toward Spaniards or indeed any other nationality living here in the U.K. Should we do the same and expel all European citizens from the U.K.  Do you honestly believe such a thing could happen when we exit. With a clean break from the bureaucrats and bullies of Brussels we will be able to decide on who comes here for work, decide on our own laws and give so much back to the fishing industry that was devastated by the E.U. We can negotiate a good trade deal for us and put the great back into Great Britain. The vote wasn't to leave and abandon Europe, just the principal of one UNELECTED body deciding our fate. One who would organise a united army, Isn't that what happened in 1939/1945 when someone had the brainwave to have a united Europe...... I believe that once the U.K. finally depart from these idiots that want to hold the world to ransom, there will be others whose economy has been devastated by the euro that will line up to do the same.

Thank you.Good luck with that.

Lydia1953

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:38am

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Lewie wrote on Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:10pm:

I voted leave too.
The EU cannot let us go, we are too big a contributor, the third largest after Germany and France.
It's not a case of bullying, it's sheer desperation.
If they don't make a big hoo haa about it and we come up smelling of roses then others will without doubt follow (the...

...y may do anyway, the collapse of the EU is inevitable).
The undemocratic politicians that want us to keep voting until we make the 'right' decision are pointing out how difficult it is to get a good deal.
I didn't vote for a deal, I voted to leave the EU in it's entirety not pay billions extra as a bribe to allow us to keep trading with them. 
We never voted to join in the first place, who do these clowns think they are? 
If we remain in any way shape or form I will never vote for anything again. It shows how pointless it really is.
We get told voting is the only way to ensure change. That's only true in a democratic country.

If voting really changed a thing, it would have been prohibited a long time ago. In Belgium it is mandatory to vote, but I've not voted for years. And so did 800.000 others last time. People are fed up with those incapable morons. The EU is the biggest scam in history, it did nothing for the people, on the contrary !

Lydia1953

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:45am

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:45am

gorcol wrote on Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:03pm:

Thank you.Good luck with that.

Is this the reason so many houses are for sale in Camposol ? Because Britisch owners are afraid to be expelled ???

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:52am

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Camposol is 6 X 4 KLM in size with approximately 5,000 properties ..if you take this into consideration we really don't have that many properties for sale ...if you ask any of the estate agents on Camposol they all say the same thing ..that we are struggling as they don't have enough properties for sale ...as for resales you have got to take into consideration the age of property owners the vast majority are OAPs in my street alone 7 people pass on in the last 3 year's ... leaving the family to put the property up for sale.... could you imagine what would happen to the Spanish property market if all the British left Spain .. think about it.

Vista 70

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:59am

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:59am

gorcol wrote on Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:03pm:

Thank you.Good luck with that.

gorcol, luck has nothing to do with it. Only common sense. You asked and I provided my opinion. I would be very interested to hear your views on the subject....or are you one of the many who sit back and criticise others for having an opinion which differs from yours. Tell me, how has U.K. benefitted from the European Union. We have seen the decimation of manufacturing in this country, whole coastal regions of the U.K. have gone into decline due to the fishing regulations brought in by E.U. We have more and more of our youth claiming benefits due to job shortages made worse by the unfettered numbers of immigrants arriving. So I would be willing to listen to any argument that tells me I/we are better off being in the E.U. CLUB. Just don't see it at the moment......

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Vista 70

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:05am

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:05am

Lydia1953 wrote on Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:45am:

Is this the reason so many houses are for sale in Camposol ? Because Britisch owners are afraid to be expelled ???

I second frequent flyers response, its an ageing population. In our road we have a number of elderly people selling and going home either to be with family or to secure a place in residential care. We have seen lots more homes being sold this year alone, so I don't think there is a fear factor there only the doom-mongers trying to project it.

Lydia1953

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:12am

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:12am

Residential care is not affordable in Belgium, so I'll stay in Spain :-)

Lydia1953

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:14am

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:14am

Vista 70 wrote on Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:59am:

gorcol, luck has nothing to do with it. Only common sense. You asked and I provided my opinion. I would be very interested to hear your views on the subject....or are you one of the many who sit back and criticise others for having an opinion which differs from yours. Tell me, how has U.K. benefi...

...tted from the European Union. We have seen the decimation of manufacturing in this country, whole coastal regions of the U.K. have gone into decline due to the fishing regulations brought in by E.U. We have more and more of our youth claiming benefits due to job shortages made worse by the unfettered numbers of immigrants arriving. So I would be willing to listen to any argument that tells me I/we are better off being in the E.U. CLUB. Just don't see it at the moment......

Only the very poor countries have benefitted from the European Union and the opening of the borders. We have a very big problem in Belgium with transmigrants trying to get to the UK. Parking lots for truckdrivers have been closed because migrants climb in the trucks.

Vista 70

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:31am

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:31am

Lydia1953, my point exactly. Open borders created a massive problem for a lot of countries. These "migrants" are not refugees, if so, the E.U. laws state they must be given refuge in the FIRST safe country they get to. Why then are they pushed on toward Europe and then Great Britain. We voted for Brexit to stop this massive influx, not because of any racist issue, but because of the strain it's putting on all of our services and housing.

Lydia1953

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:37am

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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:37am

You are 100 % right Vista 70 !

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