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ann75

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:57am

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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:57am

jorge1306 wrote on Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:10pm:

No they don't..they follow the EU line Spain and won't diveet from that 

How do you know this? Spain never checked  before how long anyone from EU countries stayed, that only started after Brexit and UK became a third country.

I'm still unsure how closely they monitor EU citizens since Brexit but strongly suspect they won't kill too many golden geese from other EU countries since they obviously would lose a fortune in taxes if everyone started selling up or stopped buying property here. I think they just target UK citizens. 

However, as to the application Spain may have made to the EU to allow flexibility as a special case,  I doubt the EU could agree to waive the 90 day rule as it would open the floodgates for other EU countries, and, in any case, they have the bilateral option so why bother applying in the first place with that as a fall back? 

OR, they could just do what they always did before and ignore the Schengen rules altogether. I reckon they will take the line of least resistance & take a relaxed attitude in favour of holding onto property and non res. taxes not to mention all the revenue longer term tourists stay in the country spend. Just my opinion. 

jorge1306

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:03am

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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:03am

ann75 wrote on Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:57am:

How do you know this? Spain never checked  before how long anyone from EU countries stayed, that only started after Brexit and UK became a third country.

I'm still unsure how closely they monitor EU citizens since Brexit but strongly suspect they won't kill too many golden geese from other EU countries since they obviously would lose a fortune in taxes if everyone started selling up or stopped buying property here. I think they just target UK citi...

...zens. 

However, as to the application Spain may have made to the EU to allow flexibility as a special case,  I doubt the EU could agree to waive the 90 day rule as it would open the floodgates for other EU countries, and, in any case, they have the bilateral option so why bother applying in the first place with that as a fall back? 

OR, they could just do what they always did before and ignore the Schengen rules altogether. I reckon they will take the line of least resistance & take a relaxed attitude in favour of holding onto property and non res. taxes not to mention all the revenue longer term tourists stay in the country spend. Just my opinion. 

Wishful musing and day dreaming...Good luck ...when you walk down a street in a dream but you know your not dreaming signore excusee me can't you see but back in old Napoli that's ignore me !

ann75

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:13am

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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:13am

jorge1306 wrote on Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:03am:

Wishful musing and day dreaming...Good luck ...when you walk down a street in a dream but you know your not dreaming signore excusee me can't you see but back in old Napoli that's ignore me !

You're entitled to your opinion and do an I. Have a lovely day. Stay safe.

andrew a

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:35pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:35pm

I have been told the Spanish authorities fine over stayers, but I don’t know if it’s true..

Paul 1961

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:05pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:05pm

andrew a wrote on Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:35pm:

I have been told the Spanish authorities fine over stayers, but I don’t know if it’s true..

I WONDER HOW MUCH THE FINE WOULD BE ???

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Roland

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:32pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:32pm

There are online / social media rumours of fines etc.

How true they are who knows.

Not really worth the risk though.

More info here

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andrew a

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:55pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:55pm

Paul 1961 wrote on Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:05pm:

I WONDER HOW MUCH THE FINE WOULD BE ???

Sorry, no idea, I’m hoping not to find out…

Have to stick to the rules I t

Mags44

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:13pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:13pm

andrew a wrote on Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:35pm:

I have been told the Spanish authorities fine over stayers, but I don’t know if it’s true..

There's plenty of information out there regarding overstaying in the EU. Here are just a couple of articles on the subject.

https://www.schengen-visa.com/news/overstay-my-visit-to-europe/

https://twomonkeystravelgroup.com/overstay-your-schengen-visa/

RichT

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:24pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:24pm

Paul 1961 wrote on Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:05pm:

I WONDER HOW MUCH THE FINE WOULD BE ???

The fines are up to €10,000 and you can also be expelled from Spain and banned from re-entering Spain or the whole EU for up to 5 years.

I've only seen a couple of examples on other social media of people being fined - both were US citizens and both fined €500.

tammac9999

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:54pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:54pm

Gotta join the EU for that 

Brexit madness

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