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Gem

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:25pm

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PeterC wrote on Mon May 25, 2020 6:47pm:

they are NOT added to your overall income if the government pension is put in the correct box on the return. It is shrouded in complication exactly what they do with the figure in that box, but it produces a vastly different tax liability than if you simply add it to your other pensions: for exam...

...ple a state pension of say €8500 and a govt one of say €9000 declared as one total of €17500 would incur hefty tax - €8500 in the income box and €9000 in the exempt box would be much much less.

It is not the amount, it is how it is declared. Until 2015 it was accepted that govt. pensions should not be declared - the Spanish are not taxed on theirs so it seemed fair - but then the penny dropped that some Brits were better off than a similar Spaniard so the greedy taxman changed the rules.

Exempt must have a different meaning in Spanish. Anyone with a UK government pension could look at their Spanish tax return - if there is no entry in Box 525 it has been done incorrectly.

Thanks for the info Peter.

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 5:29pm

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 5:29pm

For regular medication. If you are a senior citizen and intend to stay in Spain for more than 3 months you need to become a resident. Once a resident you can apply for a tarjeta sanitoria which is a Spanish health card. This should give you access to medication and a the health system. If you do not intend to stay in Spain for longer than 3 months, then ask your GP to give you 3 months of your regular prescription. Most regular medication can be purchased here in Spain over the counter. If you are intending to come to Spain to live then I would suggest that before you take such a major step it  would be worth reading the GOV.UK internet site. You will get precise and up to date information. It is quite a complicated subject with so many different answers depending on your particular situation. Also folk do seem to get an NIE number mixed up with the Tarjeta Sanatoria they are totally different.

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 5:55pm

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 5:55pm

not just a senior citizen but you have to be in receipt of your UK state pension and obtain and S1 form from UK pensions

AngieBattye

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 6:44pm

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 6:44pm

ironwheels wrote on Wed May 27, 2020 1:45pm:

Hi Angie, you can buy Amlodopine (high blood pressure) over the counter in Spain.

Thanks for that. I usually take Ramipril but is good to know. Many thanks.  👍😁

AngieBattye

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 6:50pm

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Patricia76 wrote on Wed May 27, 2020 5:29pm:

For regular medication. If you are a senior citizen and intend to stay in Spain for more than 3 months you need to become a resident. Once a resident you can apply for a tarjeta sanitoria which is a Spanish health card. This should give you access to medication and a the health system. If you do ...

...not intend to stay in Spain for longer than 3 months, then ask your GP to give you 3 months of your regular prescription. Most regular medication can be purchased here in Spain over the counter. If you are intending to come to Spain to live then I would suggest that before you take such a major step it  would be worth reading the GOV.UK internet site. You will get precise and up to date information. It is quite a complicated subject with so many different answers depending on your particular situation. Also folk do seem to get an NIE number mixed up with the Tarjeta Sanatoria they are totally different.

Thanks for that Patricia.  I am hoping to go to Spain to live.  As long as am able due to Brexit! Am 60 so not on pension and not planning to become resident as got assets here in the uk. 

I can always order meds on line and get my son to collect and post out! Was wondering how others manage in my situation. 

Thanks again. 👍😁

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AngieBattye

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 6:52pm

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 6:52pm

crissywissy wrote on Wed May 27, 2020 5:55pm:

not just a senior citizen but you have to be in receipt of your UK state pension and obtain and S1 form from UK pensions

Hi Chrissy. I wont be receiving state pension from UK for another 6 years when am 66. 

Will60

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 7:36pm

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 7:36pm

AngieBattye wrote on Wed May 27, 2020 6:50pm:

Thanks for that Patricia.  I am hoping to go to Spain to live.  As long as am able due to Brexit! Am 60 so not on pension and not planning to become resident as got assets here in the uk. 

I can always order meds on line and get my son to collect and post out! Was wondering how others manage in my situation. ...

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Thanks again. 👍😁

You have received some good advice on this thread ... on healthcare and taxation.

Your post (above) seems to be code for "I'm going to ignore all that advice and live illegally in Spain, and put my health at risk". 

This might be construed as offensive to those of us who have taken the time to provide advice, who live legally in Spain, and contribute to the country we live in. 

AngieBattye

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:01pm

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:01pm

Will60 wrote on Wed May 27, 2020 7:36pm:

You have received some good advice on this thread ... on healthcare and taxation.

Your post (above) seems to be code for "I'm going to ignore all that advice and live illegally in Spain, and put my health at risk". 

This might be construed as offensive to those of us who have taken the time to provide advice, who live legally in Spain, and contribute to the country we live in. 

Sorry didnt mean to offend anyone. 

 Getting different advice not always on here. My question was about medications and not about being a resident pensions and taxes. 

Only renting initially to see if it's for me so don't want to rush into anything.  

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:08pm

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:08pm

AngieBattye wrote on Wed May 27, 2020 8:01pm:

Sorry didnt mean to offend anyone. 

 Getting different advice not always on here. My question was about medications and not about being a resident pensions and taxes. 

Only renting initially to see if it's for me so don't want to rush into anything.  

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PeterC wrote on Mon May 25, 2020 10:54am:

Put very simply if you pay tax as a Spanish resident then you may claim any tax paid in the UK against that, or once your residency is established here request that your UK income is paid without deduction and declare it on your Spanish return. It is already complex, and will not get clearer post...

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Thanks for that Peter. You are very helpful. Why and what taxes are paid for assets.  Ie property? 

Thanks. 

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You asked about taxes !

You want to be here for 12 months ... Residency !

Patricia76

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:55pm

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:55pm

AngieBattye wrote on Wed May 27, 2020 8:01pm:

Sorry didnt mean to offend anyone. 

 Getting different advice not always on here. My question was about medications and not about being a resident pensions and taxes. 

Only renting initially to see if it's for me so don't want to rush into anything.  

Hi Angie, moving to Spain for any time longer than 180 days means that you are no longer a tourist. This brings you into legal or not legal status. Using a forum to get advice on what can be a very complicated subject, is probably not the best avenue to go down. The days of foreigners  being able to move into Spain and live beneath the radar have probably come to an end. Brexit will probably highlight many problems. You will have to look at your tax position in Spain and UK. The inheritance rules are different, the health cover is different etc etc. Spain is a foreign country not an extension of England. You really will be better off using the Gov.co site to get the latest information and take tax advice from a qualified accountant familiar with the Spanish tax system

Just as an aside ...although many do order their medication on line and get it posted out, it is actually not legal to do so. The UK NHS is a resident based system. In other words if you leave England to live or stay in Spain and the UK is no longer your primary place of residence then you should unregister from your UK GP. 

As I suggested previously, just coming to Spain on a short term rental ie 3 months then you remain a tourist and can just see wether you like it enough to make the move and you can bring a 3 month supply of meds with you.

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