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CFC1905

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:11pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:11pm

My view is that in the uk the government tried to treat people like adults. Gave them the facts and the limitations and trusted that people would act in a grown up way.

In Spain they simply blocked everything and went much further than the uk

Idiots exist everywhere and the rules advised or imposed were broken regardless

Seems to me that in these extra ordinary times many governments were, and continue, trying to negotiate uncertain times without really knowing the end game but in the end, us mere mortals have to trust those in charge to do the best for their respective countries

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:17pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:17pm

Andy7 wrote on Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:32pm:

Is the OP oing to hide away until a vaccine is found maybe this time next year?

Within a few months Europe must restart their economies while protecting the vulnerable, carry on like this and more people will die through the lockdown than the virus.

I have said from the start that the financial effects will be felt for years and years both in Spain and the UK

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:26pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:26pm

smileygeorgey wrote on Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:17pm:

I have said from the start that the financial effects will be felt for years and years both in Spain and the UK

Absolutely. I try not to think too much about what financial burdens will be placed over the next decade or more on my children, both in their 20s. But I would guess they will include higher income tax rates across the board, a couple of percentage points on national insurance contributions, and  increased charges for all central and local government services. How such measures are supposed to aid economic recovery is the conundrum.

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:29pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:29pm

Not just the uk and Spain but globally, so as everyone is impacted it will be the same impact by and large for everyone

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:43pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:43pm

CFC1905 wrote on Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:29pm:

Not just the uk and Spain but globally, so as everyone is impacted it will be the same impact by and large for everyone

Of course it will be across the world as you say but the future looks grim

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CFC1905

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:50pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:50pm

Must admit I try not to see it as grim. There are bound to be changes but the same for everyone so we simply all adjust together 

I think buying and selling of larger items such as cars and property will be impacted hard but if the value of a property you might be trying to sell, for example, is lower then in theory so is the one you are trying to buy

The age old rule of supply and demand will continue to drive markets as it has always done

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:18pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:18pm

CFC1905 wrote on Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:50pm:

Must admit I try not to see it as grim. There are bound to be changes but the same for everyone so we simply all adjust together 

I think buying and selling of larger items such as cars and property will be impacted hard but if the value of a property you might be trying to sell, for example, is lower then in theory so is the one you are trying to buy...

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The age old rule of supply and demand will continue to drive markets as it has always done

That fine for people who still got any money there will be lots of people who will be financially ruined and also some businesses

That as far as I am concerned is right now but the government both UK and Spain do not look like ending it anytime soon

And I am not talking being able to go out 1KM for a bloody excercise either I am talking about back to some sort of normal

Yes it will not be the same but I do not know how bars and restaurants are supposed to survive as very many of them are not pulling in thousands as people think it is a very tight business

So Grim is the word I used and I think it will be right

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:42pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:42pm

But if the lockdown is eased to early then there is the clear threat of a second wave in which case the current lockdown has to be pbased in slowly

Yes, some businesses and probably individuals may suffer but seeing this is a global pandemic completely new to everyone, governments are all on a learning curve

Mistakes have been made, more are bound to follow but in the end surely it is better to try and ensurethose that do survive have the best chances going forward with whatever assistance can be given

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:34pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:34pm

CFC1905 wrote on Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:42pm:

But if the lockdown is eased to early then there is the clear threat of a second wave in which case the current lockdown has to be pbased in slowly

Yes, some businesses and probably individuals may suffer but seeing this is a global pandemic completely new to everyone, governments are all on a learning curve...

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Mistakes have been made, more are bound to follow but in the end surely it is better to try and ensurethose that do survive have the best chances going forward with whatever assistance can be given

Personally having read so much I always thought herd immunity was the way and when not if we have another wave then it will be worse as nobody has any immunity. And if they had gone down that riute the financial situation would have survived very well

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:43pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:43pm

Really not sure that you can believe everything you read as so much rubbish is written I think it is hard to differentiate between truth or lies

My view is that I am not privy to all accurate information as governments are so i/we have to trust them to do the right thing for all of us and even then, we so many different approaches

If people abuse the rules then the lockdown will be rescinded so it is totally down to all individuals to do what is asked of them. Those that don't, and there will always be a minority, put the rest of us in danger and delay returning to some kind of normality

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