Healthcare - Page 5

RichT wrote on Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:47am:

Just to clarify / correct a few points raised here:

Income Tax: Anyone who moves to the UK and becomes a resident has to declare tax on both their UK income and any other worldwide income - so a Spaniard moving to the UK would be taxed on their Spanish pension, interest on savings, rent received on a property in Spain, etc. in the same way as expa...

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...ts moving to Spain are (the only difference is in tax rates and personal allowances). This also applies to Capital Gains Tax. The dual-taxation agreement also works both ways. Spain are not 'being greedy,' they are applying the same rules as the UK does; and also the same as they apply to all other non-EU countries.

Healthcare: Emergency (A&E) treatment in the UK is free to anyone. Anyone who moves to the UK and becomes a resident has to pay the 'NHS surcharge' on their visa (£624 per year) and the process to obtain full residency takes five years (in general). Precriptions, eye tests and dental treatment are only included under the rules for each 'nation' (e.g. prescriptions are free in Scotland, but not in England). I think people are perhaps confused by asylum seekers who do not have to pay for NHS treatment.

Foreign population living in Spain: As at 1st Janury 2020, the top 5 (plus select others) of foreign born people living in Spain were: Moroccans - 760k, Romanians - 667k, British - 301k, Italians - 268k, Columbians - 262k, Chinese - 197k, Bulgarian - 123k, Ukranian - 108k, Portugese - 106k, Russian - 82k, Polish - 66k.

I hope this helps informed debate...

James363 wrote on Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:40pm:

If it does one good thing for Spain like getting rid of dishonest Brits like the Scotts(Mcassa365) who live on Terrazas de la Torre then it will be good for Spain. Hope it brings an end to them that give honest ex pats a bad name. Karma.

chucky wrote on Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:03pm:

Its almost like Spain doesn't want the Brits here anymore, cutting their noses off to spite their face, but wait till they realize how much they are losing

chucky wrote on Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:03pm:

Its almost like Spain doesn't want the Brits here anymore, cutting their noses off to spite their face, but wait till they realize how much they are losing

sdb137 wrote on Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:10pm:

Very informing, but sorry you are wrong, if you enter UK by any means, no matter who you are, none resident, or illigal, including across the channel in a boat, with no passport, having never payed a penny into the UK system, you get free NHS care at once, I know I used to escort them to hospital.

I addition another example, a Nigerian lady flew to America, and upon arrival stated she was pregnant expecting triplets, and wanted help, the US border force refused entry, and told her she must fly back home, as they would not cover her position for health care....

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She did no more than asked to be put on a plane to Heathrow, and upon arrival went into a London hospital, where she was given full medical care, and filled up the high dependancy unit with her new born children for over 5 months, at a cost of 800 thousand pounds, and never payed a penny.

NHS treatment will be given to all, at no cost, and never refused.

Just one example, so you see, 

   

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sdb137 wrote on Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:27pm:

Sadly Spain is trying to get every penny out of the expats already here.

As of 2021, none residents tax goes up from 19% to 24 %, because of Brexit they state, amazes me, or is it greed.

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Those who now cannot produce a IBI receipt for 2020, are asked to produce receipts for past years, lets be honest, some have never payed IBI,  and never done the 720 declaration, but now the Spanish tax man is on to them.

When we spoke to a guy in the cafe, he said in 10 years he had never heard of IBI, and had no idea what a 720 declaration was.

There are massive fines for not paying the IBI, and back payments will be required, along with not doing the declaration.

At the very least they will catch up with none payers on the sale of their property, as all is now double checked.

Before Brexit, it seems it was easy to stay below the radar, but not any longer.

RichT wrote on Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:56pm:

I was interpreting from the government website - see below. As such, I am confient that my clarification is correct.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-entitlements-migrant-health-guide

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There will always be examples of people who 'game the system' and without full knowledge of the Nigerian woman's circumstances it would be irresponsible to comment further - although it could be considered from the information provided that the impending birth of triplets and their subsequent treatment in a high dependency unit for an extensive period may be a good indication that this was emergency treatment, which you will note from my post and the link above is specified as being free to all.

sdb137 wrote on Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:27pm:

Sadly Spain is trying to get every penny out of the expats already here.

As of 2021, none residents tax goes up from 19% to 24 %, because of Brexit they state, amazes me, or is it greed.

Read more...

Those who now cannot produce a IBI receipt for 2020, are asked to produce receipts for past years, lets be honest, some have never payed IBI,  and never done the 720 declaration, but now the Spanish tax man is on to them.

When we spoke to a guy in the cafe, he said in 10 years he had never heard of IBI, and had no idea what a 720 declaration was.

There are massive fines for not paying the IBI, and back payments will be required, along with not doing the declaration.

At the very least they will catch up with none payers on the sale of their property, as all is now double checked.

Before Brexit, it seems it was easy to stay below the radar, but not any longer.

RachelBensonC21EstateAgent wrote on Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:17pm:

if you play below the radar as you call it you are a criminal. hope you all get done big fines or loose your property and are never alowed back into spain again, you are just commom criminals, and you would be the first to complane about uk imagints doing the the same in the uk. jokers one and all.

RichT wrote on Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:56pm:

I was interpreting from the government website - see below. As such, I am confient that my clarification is correct.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-entitlements-migrant-health-guide

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There will always be examples of people who 'game the system' and without full knowledge of the Nigerian woman's circumstances it would be irresponsible to comment further - although it could be considered from the information provided that the impending birth of triplets and their subsequent treatment in a high dependency unit for an extensive period may be a good indication that this was emergency treatment, which you will note from my post and the link above is specified as being free to all.